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« Reply #200 on: October 07, 2006, 03:38:41 AM »

Wow...just finished. Let me say it is exceedingly rare for me to finish a game. I don't think I've ever put in 60 hours on one pass through a single-player game as I have with EA. I was ready for the finale, and I wouldn't have minded if they'd trimmed the length a bit, but it was a wonderful ride and I'm very glad I did it.

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That final sequence was brutal! Oddly enough, though, the hardest fight of them all for me was the first fight with the IQ. It was so hard to keep Atsuma alive. Took me several different tries, but I finally got through that battle by using a special item given to me by Yuki in the first round and a massive combo attack in round two. Much like the Mystery Man fight, I found that the support skill that lets you move anywhere on the grid to be vital. During the remaining fights I used items liberally and some of the battles got touchy, but nothing too tragic.

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« Reply #201 on: October 07, 2006, 04:24:04 AM »

Quote from: disarm on October 06, 2006, 10:29:44 PM

yep...made it through pretty easily once i finally got back to the game and powered up my character a little bit.  it was really just a matter of boosting my HP enough to survive that particular boss' big attack.  once i did that, i was able to kick his ass pretty well.  now i'm able to fight the final battle, but i'm putting it off a little while i go back to get all the God Orbs and earn a few more golems just for the hell of it icon_cool

The God Orb weapons are crap compared to the last set you can get. If you have any problems with the IQ, get those instead.
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« Reply #202 on: October 07, 2006, 11:15:37 AM »

I wouldn't know, but you certainly can finish the game with just the God Orb weapons.
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« Reply #203 on: October 11, 2006, 07:17:13 PM »

quick question - is there a point to having more than one character learn the "double tb" skill?  right now i have atsuma with it, and since hes always in my party i figure hes the only one - i dont get more gold if a couple people have this right?
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« Reply #204 on: October 12, 2006, 02:19:26 AM »

Quote from: Doopri on October 11, 2006, 07:17:13 PM

quick question - is there a point to having more than one character learn the "double tb" skill?  right now i have atsuma with it, and since hes always in my party i figure hes the only one - i dont get more gold if a couple people have this right?


I honestly don't know. I never used it. There's too much money at the end of the game and too many support skills I'd rather have equipped (e.g for Atsuma: +20% hp, +20% melee, +20% agility, cancel gravity)
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« Reply #205 on: October 12, 2006, 02:23:14 PM »

Quote from: Doopri on October 11, 2006, 07:17:13 PM

quick question - is there a point to having more than one character learn the "double tb" skill?  right now i have atsuma with it, and since hes always in my party i figure hes the only one - i dont get more gold if a couple people have this right?


There are a few skills that only Atsuma really needs to have. Double TB, Avoid Random Encounter are the two I can think of.
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« Reply #206 on: October 16, 2006, 02:02:08 PM »

31 hours in and I made it to the end game and I'm not particularly happy. My play experience to this point has been completely "organic", meaning I have not done any grinding or cheating at the casino and have had little problem up to this piont, only replaying a few battles and only ever using 2 potions (single character full heals) mostly because I didn't want to replay the battle again. My main characters are all 45/46, 200k in the bank, god weapons all around, obviously I can afford whatever skills and potions I want. I have only used golems to fill in when one of the characters was unavailable or when Yuki needed to regenerate some VP.

There's no way this party can win the first IQ battle. Atsuma gets hammered badly. I look back through the thread and the only post I see about end game stats has Atsuma with 6500 HP. At the end of my "organic" character growth I have Atsuma at around 2100 HP. I checked to see what my current cash stockpile could get me for health... up to about 2600. I did the math and I'd need about 1.6 million additional to get to that HP level. Awesome. Tongue

Could we make the endgame any more wildly difficult than the rest of the game?

Lee, where are these last weapons you can get that are better than the god weapons?
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« Reply #207 on: October 16, 2006, 02:06:35 PM »

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Could we make the endgame any more wildly difficult than the rest of the game?

I haven't played Enchanted Arms, but this is a major pet peeve of mine in RPGs in general.  So many games spike the difficulty level at the very end that I start to dread the endgame instead of looking forward to it.  Seems like they are designed to give the player that does the optional content (Ultimate Weapons and such) a challenge and end up making it too difficult for the normal player without excessive grinding. 
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« Reply #208 on: October 16, 2006, 02:17:57 PM »

Quote from: coopasonic on October 16, 2006, 02:02:08 PM

31 hours in and I made it to the end game and I'm not particularly happy. My play experience to this point has been completely "organic", meaning I have not done any grinding or cheating at the casino and have had little problem up to this piont, only replaying a few battles and only ever using 2 potions (single character full heals) mostly because I didn't want to replay the battle again. My main characters are all 45/46, 200k in the bank, god weapons all around, obviously I can afford whatever skills and potions I want. I have only used golems to fill in when one of the characters was unavailable or when Yuki needed to regenerate some VP.

There's no way this party can win the first IQ battle. Atsuma gets hammered badly. I look back through the thread and the only post I see about end game stats has Atsuma with 6500 HP. At the end of my "organic" character growth I have Atsuma at around 2100 HP. I checked to see what my current cash stockpile could get me for health... up to about 2600. I did the math and I'd need about 1.6 million additional to get to that HP level. Awesome. Tongue

Could we make the endgame any more wildly difficult than the rest of the game?

Lee, where are these last weapons you can get that are better than the god weapons?

There are essentially two ways to beat the end game.

Spoiler for Hiden:
IQ's attacks in the final sequence do about 3k damage to Atsuma even after Raigar's defense buff. It would be extremely difficult to beat IQ without Atsuma's EX attacks

Spoiler for Hiden:
Rack up $ at the casino or grinding and buy the skill point buffs to get everyone's HP and EP up

Spoiler for Hiden:
The second option is to go through the Holy Beast Shrine and get the Omega golem. He has an attack that reduces any enemy to 1 HP. You also get some nice weapons
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« Reply #209 on: October 16, 2006, 02:55:57 PM »

Quote from: coopasonic on October 16, 2006, 02:02:08 PM

31 hours in and I made it to the end game and I'm not particularly happy. My play experience to this point has been completely "organic", meaning I have not done any grinding or cheating at the casino and have had little problem up to this piont, only replaying a few battles and only ever using 2 potions (single character full heals) mostly because I didn't want to replay the battle again. My main characters are all 45/46, 200k in the bank, god weapons all around, obviously I can afford whatever skills and potions I want. I have only used golems to fill in when one of the characters was unavailable or when Yuki needed to regenerate some VP.

There's no way this party can win the first IQ battle. Atsuma gets hammered badly. I look back through the thread and the only post I see about end game stats has Atsuma with 6500 HP. At the end of my "organic" character growth I have Atsuma at around 2100 HP. I checked to see what my current cash stockpile could get me for health... up to about 2600. I did the math and I'd need about 1.6 million additional to get to that HP level. Awesome. Tongue

Could we make the endgame any more wildly difficult than the rest of the game?

Lee, where are these last weapons you can get that are better than the god weapons?

I just checked my save file and in my game Atsuma had just under 1800hp and my guys range from 43-45. You can do this. Keep in mind that this is only the beginning of the end, but it is, IMO, the toughest fight. You will want a good half dozen or so of each of the various high end potions, if you want to be on the safe side.

Reposting this from above in case you missed it.

Spoiler for Hiden:
That final sequence was brutal! Oddly enough, though, the hardest fight of them all for me was the first fight with the IQ. It was so hard to keep Atsuma alive. Took me several different tries, but I finally got through that battle by using a special item given to me by Yuki in the first round and a massive combo attack in round two. Much like the Mystery Man fight, I found that the support skill that lets you move anywhere on the grid to be vital. During the remaining fights I used items liberally and some of the battles got touchy, but nothing too tragic.

More specific instructions below if you want them:

Spoiler for Hiden:
When you're in Gravekeep Holm, you'll be given a choice of who to go talk to before going to bed. I chose Yuki. I haven't tried the others, so I don't know what happens, but if it turns out they are different, go back to this point in a save file if you can and go talk to her. She gives you a special bullet, which was critical in getting through this fight.

I tried a number of approaches to this battle, including using Raigar's EX Tiara Crusade (which blocks 75% of damage), but nothing quite worked. On my fourth or fifth try, I was down to only Karin and used the bullet to see what it did. What it does is fill the combo meter of everyone in the party. Note that some of the golems, like the Sasquatch, also have this ability, so that may be another way to do this. At any rate, you want that power here.

In the first round of the fight you have three objectives: buff as much as possible, keep Atsuma alive, and fill the combo meter. For the first, use Raigar and Atsuma's self buffs (but not Raigar's EX Levatane...I'd save that for a bit later on--actually, I'm not certain I had Raigar's buff equipped at this point but if you got it, use it). For the second, it's really helpful, perhaps crucial depending upon your starting setup to have the support power Wide Range equipped. Atsuma can withstand a shot from IQ--what you need to avoid is having all her protectors pummeling the poor guy. Use Yuki's gravity shot to pin down a couple of those nasties (or pin down one on the same side where another is all the way to one side) and position Atsuma all the way to the opposite side so they can't get at him. Remember you don't need to worry about precise positioning for the following round because of the flexibility that Wide Range gives you--the exception being that you want to move Raigar and Atsuma last in the following round). Finally, have Karin use the bullet to fill the combo meter.

Round 2 is a fairly simple affair, really. If Atsuma is dead, start over, otherwise, unleash hell. You'll probably want to attack in this order (Karin, Yuki, Raigar, Atsuma). IQ will have a blocker, so choose appropriate attacks. Hopefully the IQ is only in the second row and you can use Raigar's Y-shaped melee attack, but if not, it shouldn't be tragic. Even if you don't take her out with the combo, you should be able to get close enough to finish her off. Atsuma should finish the combo with Stun Bead Flare. My listed max damage for an attack is 11356 and I'm fairly certain that's from this fight.

I hope this helps. Let me just add that this is the first console RPG I've ever played, so I certainly don't consider myself an expert. As you can see from what I posted above, I certainly didn't do anything to get my guys artificially pumped up or anything like that. Heck, I put double the hours in that coopasonic did and his guys have better stats. This fight was challenging and required a bit of luck and/or thought, but it is doable.

Quote from: DamageInc on October 16, 2006, 02:17:57 PM

There are essentially two ways to beat the end game.

For the record, I did neither. Not trying to be a braggart, just show it can be done without taking those routes.
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« Reply #210 on: October 16, 2006, 03:45:35 PM »

Thanks Misguided. I was thinking about how to do basically what you did, but since I never really had problems with any other fights I never even considered some of the things you mention
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« Reply #211 on: October 16, 2006, 08:07:20 PM »

Good luck with it. I found that gravity was extremely useful throughout the last third of the game. For instance, it can work wonders when dealing with beasties that can rez. Also, you will sometimes have opponents waste a round using a skill that negates the gravity when they could have been beating the snot out of you.(Incidentally, if you see "disabled" when you try and use it, it means they have the cancel gravity support skill).
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« Reply #212 on: March 03, 2008, 09:15:27 AM »

so i'm looking for my next RPG after i finish Lost Odyssey this weekend.   i started Blue Dragon but after 3 hours, i'm really not liking it at all.

so what is the general thoughts on EA's?   i know the gay character is really over the top, but is the gameplay and battle system solid?   decent story that keeps you interested?  worth a rental and play through?

i don't care if it's not innovative, just looking for something fun.
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« Reply #213 on: March 03, 2008, 09:38:38 AM »

I dunno, after the horrific early story, I was done with the game.  I hear the combat was pretty good though.

So try a rental, I don't think it was worth it, but you might like it.
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« Reply #214 on: March 03, 2008, 11:40:19 AM »

The combat can be fun, although I didn't find it nearly as interesting as most people did.  Unfortunately, everything else about the game is straight out of a JRPG cliche book.   The characters, story, villains, graphics, music...everything seemed dull, antiseptic, and unoriginal to me.  After about 8 hours, I realized I couldn't care less about anything that was going on outside of combat, and simply gave up.  Oh, and the early story (first couple hours) is about as bad as I've ever seen in an RPG.  I know a lot of people around here that enjoyed it, however, so ymmv...

Pickings are pretty slim for JRPG's on the 360.  BD, EA, and LO are really about it.  If you really want a good JRPG to play next, I'd suggest picking up a cheap PS2.  There's a ton of amazing JRPG's on that system.
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« Reply #215 on: March 03, 2008, 11:58:14 AM »

Quote from: Gratch on March 03, 2008, 11:40:19 AM

Pickings are pretty slim for JRPG's on the 360.  BD, EA, and LO are really about it.

There's also Eternal Sonata.
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« Reply #216 on: March 03, 2008, 12:23:06 PM »

Quote from: Turtle on March 03, 2008, 09:38:38 AM

I dunno, after the horrific early story, I was done with the game.  I hear the combat was pretty good though.

So try a rental, I don't think it was worth it, but you might like it.

I found the story compelling enough to keep me moving forward,
which I guess is saying something since I really get past the 15-20 hour mark.
There's some funny dialogue at times.
The first couple of hours are a real chore, but afterward it picks up.
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« Reply #217 on: March 03, 2008, 01:32:24 PM »

might give it a rent after all.   tried Eternal Sonata and really didn't like the battle system.   i'm more the traditional JRPG style battles, compared to what Eternal Sonata offered.

any difference in the 360 and PS3 versions?  it matter which one to rent?   one have better frame rates or added content or anything of that nature?
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« Reply #218 on: March 03, 2008, 01:46:19 PM »

Quote from: Xmann on March 03, 2008, 01:32:24 PM

might give it a rent after all.   tried Eternal Sonata and really didn't like the battle system.   i'm more the traditional JRPG style battles, compared to what Eternal Sonata offered.

any difference in the 360 and PS3 versions?  it matter which one to rent?   one have better frame rates or added content or anything of that nature?

I have the PS3 version. It's more of the director's cut version. It has more Golems to collect and I think it has a couple more cut scenes. The game runs smooth too. It also only costs $19.99 at most stores so it can't hurt to try it.

My only warning is to play past the first 3 hours or so, because it will definately get better.
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« Reply #219 on: March 03, 2008, 01:48:17 PM »

I seem to recall reading that the PS3 version didn't have as good of graphics or performance. 
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« Reply #220 on: March 03, 2008, 03:23:30 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on March 03, 2008, 01:48:17 PM

I seem to recall reading that the PS3 version didn't have as good of graphics or performance. 

I can't really compare the graphics since I haven't played the 360 version, but I have played through about 50% of the game on the PS3 and I haven't noticed any slowdown or long load times for the game. It runs smooth, I just don't know if it looks the same as the 360 version.
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« Reply #221 on: March 03, 2008, 08:46:08 PM »

I reviewed the 360 version of EA and I really enjoyed it.  It was a good game, but yes, you need to get past the first couple of hours and then things get more interesting.  I liked the battle system in that you had to plan your strategy and you got a lot of golums to collect.  I think it's a bit underrated because it sounded like a lot of reviewers didn't get past the intro.
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« Reply #222 on: March 03, 2008, 09:11:15 PM »

Quote from: Graham on March 03, 2008, 08:46:08 PM

I think it's a bit underrated because it sounded like a lot of reviewers didn't get past the intro.

Well, considering just how absolutely hideous the intro was (the characters and their voices sure as heck didn't help any, either), I'm not surprised.
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« Reply #223 on: March 04, 2008, 12:13:06 AM »

Quote from: Graham on March 03, 2008, 08:46:08 PM

I think it's a bit underrated because it sounded like a lot of reviewers didn't get past the intro.

What he said. Give the man a cookie.
It's obvious that many of the reviewers barely made it past the intro, if at all,
since they had little to talk about aside from a character you barely see for the rest of the game.

BTW, I highly recommend playing with the Japanese language track and subtitles (on the disc already).
The dubs are not particularly great, esp w/ regard to Atsuma.
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« Reply #224 on: March 04, 2008, 12:22:21 AM »

I am not a JRPG connoisseur by any means, but I played it all the way through and enjoyed it. 
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