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« on: August 14, 2006, 02:25:14 AM »

Official Playstation Magazine editor is going to pass on PS3 this November.  Maybe Sony should hold back a few months and rethink it's strategy?  If MS really wanted to land a serious blow to Sony, they should announce a 100-200 buck price cut for the 360 for the duration of the holiday season-  I think they can afford to take the loss....
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2006, 02:33:04 AM »

I'm still waiting for a system selling game for the Xbox360, so I am not sure sure I would be dissin' the PS3 so fast.
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2006, 02:43:27 AM »

"Hit the weak point for massive damage."

No need to diss the PS3, they are doing a fine job themselves already. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2006, 03:11:35 AM »

Quote from: Kobra on August 14, 2006, 02:33:04 AM

I'm still waiting for a system selling game for the Xbox360, so I am not sure sure I would be dissin' the PS3 so fast.
Bioshock and Mass Effect were enough for me.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2006, 03:48:31 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on August 14, 2006, 02:43:27 AM

"Hit the weak point for massive damage."

No need to diss the PS3, they are doing a fine job themselves already. 
But I thought that game was based upon actual events that happened in feudal Japan. You know, that one time where that giant crab attacked some major battlefield somewhere.

But yeah, Sony is making it WAY too easy to poke fun of the PS3. No real interesting games that can't be done on the 360 (and especially not showing off why their console is $200 more), a drive that may or may not be the new 'thing' when it comes to playing movies, and insane Ken spewing out whatever the hell he wants from time to time.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2006, 04:41:35 AM »

Quote from: Destructor on August 14, 2006, 03:48:31 AM

But I thought that game was based upon actual events that happened in feudal Japan. You know, that one time where that giant crab attacked some major battlefield somewhere.

And they definitely had real-time weapon switching back then.

Quote from: Destructor on August 14, 2006, 03:48:31 AM

But yeah, Sony is making it WAY too easy to poke fun of the PS3. No real interesting games that can't be done on the 360 (and especially not showing off why their console is $200 more), a drive that may or may not be the new 'thing' when it comes to playing movies, and insane Ken spewing out whatever the hell he wants from time to time.

You mean like...

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The PS3 will instill discipline in our children and adults alike. Everyone will know discipline.

http://www.ps3today.com/blogs/journalblogview/hqs/blr_129.aspx
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2006, 04:42:55 AM »

Gears of War!! I can't wait to play it.

However I'm still looking forward to getting a PS3 when it sees it's first price drop. I just can't justify $600 for a console and an article I read somewhere said that all of us that go out and buy it at that crazy price it would set a new standard for console's debut prices because people are willing to pay for it. I though the 360 was a bit high at $399 (though I don't regret getting it at all) so $599 is just pushing it way too far.
Good system, probably, but the price leaves a lot of us 'average' people who have bills to pay and kids to feed out of getting an otherwise good looking system.
But then again Sony did say it was "too cheap" right?
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2006, 12:23:22 PM »

What is real time weapon switching?

Does that mean it takes say 5 seconds to put your assault rifle over your shoulder with the strap and pull the pistol from your holster?

I've heard of RTWS but I don't know that I've ever seen it defined.

IF what I wrote is correct, then who cares? Can't anyone do that?
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2006, 12:24:25 PM »

Oh and could this cost the editor her job?
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2006, 01:02:32 PM »

Quote from: ATB on August 14, 2006, 12:23:22 PM

What is real time weapon switching?


It's just a joke based on a particularly embarrassing portion of Sony's E3 2006 conference that had a developer playing Genji 2, I believe, and bragging that the game featured "real time weapon switching" like it was some sort of major next-gen feature. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2006, 01:32:13 PM »

Quote from: Kobra on August 14, 2006, 02:33:04 AM

I'm still waiting for a system selling game for the Xbox360, so I am not sure sure I would be dissin' the PS3 so fast.

There was no clear single system-seller for me, but the combo of the PGR & Forza franchises, plus Oblivion, Dead Rising, Chromehounds, & Rare (Viva Pinata looks simply delicious...) made it worthwhile.  smile

I'll pick up a Wii because I'm a Nintendo junkie.

The PS3 I expect I'll be passing on both due to price and objection to a lot of Sony's business practices lately.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2006, 02:09:22 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on August 14, 2006, 01:02:32 PM

Quote from: ATB on August 14, 2006, 12:23:22 PM

What is real time weapon switching?


It's just a joke based on a particularly embarrassing portion of Sony's E3 2006 conference that had a developer playing Genji 2, I believe, and bragging that the game featured "real time weapon switching" lag like it was some sort of major next-gen feature. 

That's probably what they meant. icon_twisted
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2006, 03:07:54 PM »

Quote from: ATB on August 14, 2006, 12:24:25 PM

Oh and could this cost the editor her job?
It was written on her personal blog, so who knows. That's the 'joy' of blogs nowadays, methinks.
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2006, 06:36:13 PM »

Is there anyone left out there that still thinks the PS3 *isn't* fucked?
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2006, 06:39:54 PM »

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on August 14, 2006, 06:36:13 PM

Is there anyone left out there that still thinks the PS3 *isn't* fucked?

Does thinking it is beyond fucked qualify?
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2006, 08:12:27 PM »

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on August 14, 2006, 06:36:13 PM

Is there anyone left out there that still thinks the PS3 *isn't* messed up?

Remember. You still think it will dominate the next gen console market and that the Wii will be nothing.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2006, 08:13:46 PM »

Quote from: ATB on August 14, 2006, 08:12:27 PM

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on August 14, 2006, 06:36:13 PM

Is there anyone left out there that still thinks the PS3 *isn't* messed up?

Remember. You still think it will dominate the next gen console market and that the Wii will be nothing.
Then I bought a PSP.

Oh yeah, and there was that whole price annoucement thing.  $600 is the kiss of death.  I don't care how hard people scream 'inflation inflation waaaaaa,' $600 is just Too Fucking Much(tm).

When you look back at all the other consoles that released for absurd prices, you realize THEY ALL FAILED.  Turbographix 16.  3DO.  Sega CD.  To a lesser extent, the Saturn and the XBox 360 -- two very similar systems when you look at it, both ahead of their time and appropriately priced, but still floundering because, well, they're ahead of their time.  Except Microsoft has the bankroll to eat a floundering right after a flop, unlike Sega did...

The Wii?  Man, the name's still gaygaygay, and quite frankly, I'm afraid the Wii is going to end up like the Gamecube is now -- one release every, what, month, with a game worth renting every three months, and a game worth purchasing every six?  I guess we can hope for a power void when/if the PS3 flops that sends 3rd parties scurrying to the Wii and 360, but that doesn't make me confident about the Wii's long-term prospects.

Seriously, this is going to be one rowdy, fucked up console generation.
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2006, 01:43:39 AM »

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on August 14, 2006, 08:13:46 PM

When you look back at all the other consoles that released for absurd prices, you realize THEY ALL FAILED.  Turbographix 16.  3DO.  Sega CD.  To a lesser extent, the Saturn and the XBox 360 -- two very similar systems when you look at it, both ahead of their time and appropriately priced, but still floundering because, well, they're ahead of their time.  Except Microsoft has the bankroll to eat a floundering right after a flop, unlike Sega did...

I wouldn't consider more than 5 million XBox 360s sold as being "floundering".  They have obvious problems in Japan, but elsewhere it is an extremely valid platform. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2006, 01:50:08 AM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 15, 2006, 01:43:39 AM

I wouldn't consider more than 5 million XBox 360s sold as being "floundering".  They have obvious problems in Japan, but elsewhere it is an extremely valid platform. 

Microsoft's announced that they've shipped more than 5 million consoles to retail. Best estimates are that the 360 has sold less than 3.5 million consoles to consumers. It's currently selling at a slower rate than the original Xbox did when it was first released, although that's primarily due to the $400 price point and initial shortages.
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2006, 02:25:49 AM »

Quote from: Andrew Mallon on August 15, 2006, 01:50:08 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 15, 2006, 01:43:39 AM

I wouldn't consider more than 5 million XBox 360s sold as being "floundering".  They have obvious problems in Japan, but elsewhere it is an extremely valid platform. 

Microsoft's announced that they've shipped more than 5 million consoles to retail. Best estimates are that the 360 has sold less than 3.5 million consoles to consumers. It's currently selling at a slower rate than the original Xbox did when it was first released, although that's primarily due to the $400 price point and initial shortages.
Especially since Nintendo plans on selling 5 million plus this holiday alone.
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2006, 02:33:59 AM »

There have been about 2.5 million 360's sold (according to NPD) since launch.  The first Xbox did nearly 1.5 million in the first 2 month of release.
After 8 month the orginal sold 2,366,898, while the 360 has sold 1,902,822.  I'd be curious what the 360 could do during the holidays with enough units to satisfy demand but they blew it last year and they face the Wii and PS3 this year.

The 360 hardware might not be burning up the charts but the games sure seem to sell well.
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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2006, 03:00:20 AM »

Quote from: stiffler on August 15, 2006, 02:33:59 AM

The 360 hardware might not be burning up the charts but the games sure seem to sell well.

Yeah, the software attach rate is insane but the monthly hardware sales have been decent at best. 
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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2006, 11:44:05 AM »

Quote from: Tebunker on August 15, 2006, 02:25:49 AM

Quote from: Andrew Mallon on August 15, 2006, 01:50:08 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 15, 2006, 01:43:39 AM

I wouldn't consider more than 5 million XBox 360s sold as being "floundering".  They have obvious problems in Japan, but elsewhere it is an extremely valid platform. 

Microsoft's announced that they've shipped more than 5 million consoles to retail. Best estimates are that the 360 has sold less than 3.5 million consoles to consumers. It's currently selling at a slower rate than the original Xbox did when it was first released, although that's primarily due to the $400 price point and initial shortages.
Especially since Nintendo plans on selling 5 million plus this holiday alone.

I know that everyone, including myself, is bananas for the Wii, but is that target number even remotely realistic? Has a console EVER moved that many units in such a short timeline?...well I guess the DS Lite did.
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2006, 01:55:55 PM »

Quote from: ATB on August 15, 2006, 11:44:05 AM

I know that everyone, including myself, is bananas for the Wii, but is that target number even remotely realistic?
Sure.

1.) It's (supposed to be) cheap.
2.) It's (supposed to be) launching with Zelda, which is second only to Mario in terms of selling systems.
3.) Nintendo is actually the name of a great old one about two hundred miles off the coast of Japan, who sends the Japanese dreams of the Wii and tentacle porn.
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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2006, 12:42:45 PM »

So potentially, Nintendo could leapfrog 360 in one holiday season?  I wonder what MS would say to that.

Any projections on what sony thinks the PS3 will sell?
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« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2006, 12:59:37 PM »

Quote from: ATB on August 16, 2006, 12:42:45 PM

So potentially, Nintendo could leapfrog 360 in one holiday season? 

Not really- if Nintendo can ship and sell 5 million, then they would only be leapfrogging where MS is *now*, not where they will be at the end of the year.  Remember, they'll have a holiday season too that shouldn't suffer from the supply constraints of last year.

As to Sony, I seem to recall they were hoping for 2 million at launch, 2 million for the rest of the calendar year (ie 4 million total shipped after the holidays) and another 2 million by the end of first quarter next year.  So, given constraints of the shipping system, they would probably be looking at 2.5-3.0 million sold best case for the end of the year and that's only *if* (a big if) they can meet their shipping targets. 
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2006, 08:19:16 PM »

My understanding is that 3 months before launch, they still haven't begun manufacturing them.  At this point, the PS3 is a vaporconsole.
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