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« Reply #80 on: January 09, 2006, 09:50:12 PM »

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Ugh, I've really hit the wall with DQ8.  I'm about 25 hours in, and I've reached the point that I will need to spend a few hours levelling before tackling the next dungeon.  While I enjoy the combat for the most part, I just can't bring myself to spend the time level-grinding.

I love this game, but the ultra-simplistic story and characters are starting to cause it to lose a bit of lustre.  frown


????  

I am 47 hours in and haven't really hit something like that....which dungeon are you having trouble with?  It is hard to remember what was going on that long ago!
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« Reply #81 on: January 09, 2006, 10:15:52 PM »

I can't remember the name (I haven't played since before X-mas), but it's the first town you come to after getting the ship.  I haven't actually hit the dungeon proper yet, but I know from the random encounters outside of town that I will need to level up before I do.  I've been getting my ass kicked pretty good.  I thought I had been doing a good job of levelling (I'd spend at least a full game-day each time I turned the game on doing nothing but levelling), but apparently not.

I'm also realizing that I have built a couple of my characters incorrectly.  I started out building sword skills on the main character, then switched to boomerang once I finally got one and realized what a better weapon it is.  I now use the boomerang almost exclusively, but I've got about 20 points in a sword skill that I haven't used more than once or twice in the last 10 hours.  Oops.  I developed Yangus OK, but I split off too many points for Jessica between staff and Sex Appeal as well.  My characters are probably too underpowered now, but I just can't bring myself to start over and rebuild them from the beginning.
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« Reply #82 on: January 09, 2006, 11:15:04 PM »

I think the only parts where I had to actively go out and level was at the very beginning and once I hit the Western Continent.  Other than that, I've found the difficulty balanced just right.
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« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2006, 01:17:58 PM »

*SPOILERS(?)*

Hey Gratch, are you sure you're heading to the right location for next?  Are you near the Seaview Church or Baccarat?
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« Reply #84 on: January 10, 2006, 01:48:41 PM »

MINOR SPOILERS






I'm in Baccarat trying to find out why the casino is closed.  It seemeed the most logical place to go, but maybe I missed something.
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« Reply #85 on: January 10, 2006, 02:25:17 PM »

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I'm in Baccarat trying to find out why the casino is closed.  It seemeed the most logical place to go, but maybe I missed something.



You are on the right track as far as the story goes.  Now if you are getting beaten by the random encounters you probably do need some leveling but one level should be enough.


I have also found that in almost every area there is one type of monster which is always very tough and I run from them.  I can face every other monster but there always seems to be one which just is too tough to be fun so I run.
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« Reply #86 on: January 10, 2006, 04:12:36 PM »

Any recommendations on a good place to go for leveling (at around level 25)? Are there any places where I might run into metal slimes often (I've fought two so far and both times they've run away)? I think I need to do some serious leveling before trying the Dark Ruins again.
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« Reply #87 on: January 10, 2006, 04:51:24 PM »

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Any recommendations on a good place to go for leveling (at around level 25)? Are there any places where I might run into metal slimes often (I've fought two so far and both times they've run away)? I think I need to do some serious leveling before trying the Dark Ruins again.


The dungeon that lead into the Monastary has metal slimes.  Head down there and use Yangus's whistle ability and you should face quite a few of them.
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« Reply #88 on: January 10, 2006, 04:57:52 PM »

I killed two (I think) metal slimes once at around level 15 and if I remember right they gave me 2700 experience!  Every other one has run away from me.
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« Reply #89 on: January 10, 2006, 05:43:57 PM »

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Any recommendations on a good place to go for leveling (at around level 25)? Are there any places where I might run into metal slimes often (I've fought two so far and both times they've run away)? I think I need to do some serious leveling before trying the Dark Ruins again.


The dungeon that lead into the Monastary has metal slimes.  Head down there and use Yangus's whistle ability and you should face quite a few of them.


Thanks! Will try that out later today.

Anyone know where/if I could also find liquid metal slimes at my level?
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« Reply #90 on: January 10, 2006, 06:00:50 PM »

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Any recommendations on a good place to go for leveling (at around level 25)? Are there any places where I might run into metal slimes often (I've fought two so far and both times they've run away)? I think I need to do some serious leveling before trying the Dark Ruins again.


Let me see...places I have found

Castle Trodain has some occasionally and it also has liquid metal slimes which net 10,000 xp  and outside the royal hunting grounds has a lot of metal slimes.

Those are the most consistant places I have found.
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« Reply #91 on: January 27, 2006, 06:54:05 PM »

Ressurecting this thread just to post a few comments.

Just finished it last night with about 80 hours logged.  Fantastic game!  Best console RPG I've played in years.  I'm torn between taking a break and playing something else or continuing on to get the second ending and do the Dragovian trials.

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« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2006, 07:11:15 PM »

I picked this up last week and still haven't touched it. Mainly out of wanting to finish a few other games first and knowing that once I start this one I don't think I'll play anything else for at least a month or two. smile
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« Reply #93 on: January 27, 2006, 07:16:32 PM »

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I picked this up last week and still haven't touched it. Mainly out of wanting to finish a few other games first and knowing that once I start this one I don't think I'll play anything else for at least a month or two. smile


I too havent started it after getting it on release day, for some of the same reasons, and its eating at me.
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« Reply #94 on: January 27, 2006, 08:49:00 PM »

I'm at just past the 80 hour mark and I estimate I probably have another 20ish hours before I complete the game for both endings.  smile  Man, I love this game.  I've played several hours each week (with one or two weeks where I didn't get to put time into it) since I picked it up in November.  That's roughly 10 hours per week!
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« Reply #95 on: January 31, 2006, 04:28:19 PM »

* * * SPOILERS * * *

Just beat the Dragovian Lord last night, which is pretty much all you have to do to get the true ending.  Most in my party were around 40-41, and he really didn't even put up much of a fight.  I thought getting to him was more of a challenge, simply because almost all of the monsters are dangerous and have instant kill abilities.  The ones that don't have anything like that can hit you with a desperate attack that will do over 300 damage in one hit.

Next step now is to take down all of his forms so I can get all of the Dragovian armor and sword.  If they are as easy as he was, it shouldn't be a problem to get through the first few.  I'm going for the armor, helmet, sword, upgraded alchemy pot, and finally the shield.  After that I'll try for HEV and whatever is left.

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« Reply #96 on: January 31, 2006, 04:51:12 PM »

I'm trying desperately to finish this before either Tales of Legendia, or Grandia 3 gets released.

I figure I have about another 10-20 hours left. Can't believe I've been playing this since November... A great, great game.
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« Reply #97 on: February 06, 2006, 07:23:37 AM »

I bought this when it first came out in November and played it for a few hours, but set it aside when I unexpectedy was able to get a 360 on launch day. I finally restarted it about two weeks ago and have put about 25 hours into it since then.

Like everyone said, this game is beyond fantastic. I knew it was fantastic from playing the demo in September, and I'm kicking myself for letting it sit on my shelf for so long. I'm dividing my time right now between exploring Castle Trodain and trying to work my way up the Monster Arena ladder.

At this point, I think the game is basically perfect. Usuallly after putting this much time into a game I have a list of small complaints and quibbles, but not with this one. The story (no angsty teens!), voice acting, and the graphics are just amazing.

I haven't been this enthusastic about a game since I played Paper Mario 2.  I think DQ8 might even surpass it.
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« Reply #98 on: February 06, 2006, 11:30:38 AM »

This past weekend I put about 6 hours into DQ VIII; I finished Castle Trodain and acquired the ship, visited Princess Minnie and visited the Monster Arena for the first time.  There's always something new and fun.  This is one of the best games I've ever played.
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« Reply #99 on: February 06, 2006, 09:24:34 PM »

Where's the monster arena? I think I'm much farther than you guys who say you visited the arena.
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« Reply #100 on: February 06, 2006, 09:37:30 PM »

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Where's the monster arena? I think I'm much farther than you guys who say you visited the arena.


It's near Pickham. I bit to the southeast, I think.

edit: You'll see a building with a locked door. To open it up, you need to climb the path to the roof of the building and talk to the man on top.
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« Reply #101 on: February 06, 2006, 09:38:12 PM »

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Where's the monster arena? I think I'm much farther than you guys who say you visited the arena.


Spoiler for Hiden:
Morrie gives you the key to the arena after you defeat all three monsters that he instructs you to find.
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« Reply #102 on: February 06, 2006, 09:38:49 PM »

OH! I was scared of that place and didn't go in. I'm such a fool!
At least now I have something to do tonight.
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« Reply #103 on: February 13, 2006, 03:08:19 PM »

so my wife went out and picked this up for me..and I am blown away.  I figured it would just be another RPG..same old same old.  The battles are fun, so I don't get frustrated with to many encounters.  But my favorite thing about the game is the music..it's really amazing.

I'm going to try to play this game without any help at all..and not worry about possibly missing something.  Im close to finishing FF6 (while reading a  walkthrough) cause I get bored and just want to know what to do and be finished..I hate the feeling of that..but not as much as the feeling of not finishing the game.

Thanks to the board for constantly reminding me to pick up DQ8..
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« Reply #104 on: February 13, 2006, 03:12:55 PM »

After 40 hours I'm just tired of it... 6-10 hours is too short > 40 hours is too long.
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« Reply #105 on: February 13, 2006, 03:24:05 PM »

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After 40 hours I'm just tired of it... 6-10 hours is too short > 40 hours is too long.


So... would the 100 hours I put into the game be a little bit much then?   :lol:
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« Reply #106 on: February 13, 2006, 03:57:13 PM »

Well I finally started, got into the first town, got distracted, and quit. What.the hell.is wrong with.me? Really, this has got to stop. I think part of it might be that I like to watch dvds at the same time and its harder to watch on my computer and play PS2, but still, thats a weak ass excuse for not playing an awesome game.
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« Reply #107 on: February 13, 2006, 04:55:33 PM »

I played it again last night.  We finally met Red and we're now off to the cave to find the jewel.

It's all fairly generic fantasy stuff but it's so polished that it's just a joy to play.

I did just realize last night that when I cast the Zoom spell I have to push right to get more destinations.  I'd been walking everywhere and totally missed that.  Now that I've unlocked several destinations I can go to page two and zip right back to the dungeon.
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« Reply #108 on: February 13, 2006, 04:59:32 PM »

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I did just realize last night that when I cast the Zoom spell I have to push right to get more destinations.  I'd been walking everywhere and totally missed that.  Now that I've unlocked several destinations I can go to page two and zip right back to the dungeon.


When you get up to 4 or 5 pages of destinations, left is faster. slywink
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« Reply #109 on: February 13, 2006, 05:49:27 PM »

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After 40 hours I'm just tired of it... 6-10 hours is too short > 40 hours is too long.


Usually I'd agree with you. Most games I just lose interest between the 40-50 hours mark, no matter how good the game is. Not so with this game. I just passed the 40 hour mark and am still going strong.

The only thing that concerns me is that I've put in close to 40 hours in just over 3 weeks. Normally it takes me almost two months to put 40 to 50 hours into an RPG. That's a bit scary to think about how much time I've spent sitting on my couch recently.
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« Reply #110 on: February 13, 2006, 07:18:50 PM »

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After 40 hours I'm just tired of it... 6-10 hours is too short > 40 hours is too long.


I thought I'd feel the same way, but I'm around the 80 hour mark and I'm still having fun.   I'm guessing I won't finish until around 100 hours, but that's all good with me.   smile
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« Reply #111 on: February 15, 2006, 03:58:50 PM »

I finally beat
Spoiler for Hiden:
Dhoulmagus's second form
last night after about seven tries. First off, I think this is the first game I've played that had bosses with multiple forms where you didn't have to continually fight the earlier incarnations every time you got killed. It was really nice to be able to return and basically pick up the fight right where I left off.

I have a quesdtion, though. I really think I had a little luck on my side beating him and I'm wodering if I'm a bit underleveled. I basically fought him with most of my characters in the 29-27 level range. I ended up spending a lot of time during the fight making sure I had my buffs enabled and I had to dedicate one member solely to healing, occassionally having to use two characters in one turn. Is this normal or am going to run into problems down the road without doing some power-leveling?
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« Reply #112 on: February 15, 2006, 04:05:33 PM »

I had the same problem with that battle (and I think I was about the same level). I've probably played 15-20 hours since that point (I think, though it might be less) and I've yet to encounter a battle even half as difficult. So I wouldn't worry about powerleveling too much.

P.S. It helps to have gone far in the Monster Arena before fighting these tough battles. Having a good group (or two) or monsters that can fight for a couple of rounds is a big help.
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« Reply #113 on: February 15, 2006, 04:45:01 PM »

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P.S. It helps to have gone far in the Monster Arena before fighting these tough battles. Having a good group (or two) or monsters that can fight for a couple of rounds is a big help.


The last time I fought the boss  I started using the Call Team skill and they did some nice damage to him while active. You can have more than one Monster Team at a time? I've completed Rank C in the Monster Arena and I have nine monster slots but only one team is listed when I select the Call Team skill. Can I set up multiple teams or do I have to progress further in the Monster Arena to unlock this?
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« Reply #114 on: February 15, 2006, 05:11:20 PM »

You've got to get a bit further. Maybe completing the "B" rank?
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« Reply #115 on: February 15, 2006, 06:46:21 PM »

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I have a quesdtion, though. I really think I had a little luck on my side beating him and I'm wodering if I'm a bit underleveled. I basically fought him with most of my characters in the 29-27 level range. I ended up spending a lot of time during the fight making sure I had my buffs enabled and I had to dedicate one member solely to healing, occassionally having to use two characters in one turn. Is this normal or am going to run into problems down the road without doing some power-leveling?


Your around the right level for that.  I think I may have been one level higher at 30 when I beat him.  Your strategy sounds almost exactly like my mine.  I'll always have either Hero or Angelo healing each round during a boss fight.
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« Reply #116 on: February 17, 2006, 10:10:25 PM »

Okay so I literally just started this up and I'm walking out to the waterfall cave to retrieve the crystal ball. Time in game is roughly 45 minutes. smile I got to the cave and was promptly smacked down so I'm guessing this really is an old school type game where you have to level jack for a while before doing quests. Guess when I get home I'll try to level to around 5 and then try it again. smile
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« Reply #117 on: February 17, 2006, 10:13:29 PM »

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Okay so I literally just started this up and I'm walking out to the waterfall cave to retrieve the crystal ball. Time in game is roughly 45 minutes. smile I got to the cave and was promptly smacked down so I'm guessing this really is an old school type game where you have to level jack for a while before doing quests. Guess when I get home I'll try to level to around 5 and then try it again. smile


I would be at level 6 for the first dungeon just to be safe, but 5 is definitely doable.

FWIW, after that grind before the first dungeon you shouldn't have to grind again for a good long while.  You should pretty much level up appropriately traveling from place to place.
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« Reply #118 on: February 21, 2006, 09:47:49 PM »

What level should I be to go through the Dragovian trials?  I'm at level 41 right now and am getting the smackdown layed upon me.
Anyone make it all the way through?
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« Reply #119 on: February 21, 2006, 09:59:26 PM »

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What level should I be to go through the Dragovian trials?  I'm at level 41 right now and am getting the smackdown layed upon me.
Anyone make it all the way through?


I (barely) beat the Vermillion Dragon at level 40.  I didn't even try the one after it; I'll leave that for another time when I return to the game.  For now I'm satisfied having gotten both endings.  smile
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