AC: Brotherhood - impressions and full review!

[Razgon]

My in-laws was in Rome this last week, and when they saw this, they immedieatly thought of me, and Enzio and took a photo.

ITS ALL REAL!! I KNEW IT!

[Greggy_D]

My in-laws was in Rome this last week, and when they saw this, they immedieatly thought of me, and Enzio and took a photo.

ITS ALL REAL!! I KNEW IT!

Now that is BAD ASS! 

[Purge]

My in-laws was in Rome this last week, and when they saw this, they immedieatly thought of me, and Enzio and took a photo.

ITS ALL REAL!! I KNEW IT!

Ezio, not Enzio.

He'd kill you for that.

Also, that's him. He's not dead, he's just wearing the olive-green cape and armor.

oh, and LOOK OUT!!

[CeeKay]

he just borrowed Snake's cloaking disguise thingie-a-ma-bob to look like a statue.

[hepcat]

I'm such a moron.  I traded my copy of Brotherhood in at Gamestop last week.  I thought I'd grabbed Asscreed 2 but when I went to look for my copy Saturday so I could do some backstabbing in MP, i realized my mistake.   

[CeeKay]

I'm such a moron.  I traded my copy of Brotherhood in at Gamestop last week.  I thought I'd grabbed Asscreed 2 but when I went to look for my copy Saturday so I could do some backstabbing in MP, i realized my mistake.   

I traded in my copy of AssCreed Bros awhile back too after firing it up and finding no real need to continue.  I'm feeling the itch though again after finishing AssCreed 2 again recently.

[wonderpug]

I've never played an Ass Creed.  If I were to play just one, which should I get?

[Greggy_D]

I've never played an Ass Creed.  If I were to play just one, which should I get?

AssCreed 2 has a good story so I would start there.

AssCreed 1 seemed more like a tech demo.  Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Teggy]

I've never played an Ass Creed.  If I were to play just one, which should I get?

If you're going to look at it that way, I would say read a summary of 1 and play 2. Brotherhood is an improvement over 2, but 2 is very much worth playing while 1 can get very tiresome. If you like 2 you can play Brotherhood.

[Purge]

I'm such a moron.

QFT.

[hepcat]

I'm such a moron.

QFT.

"Quiet Frank Tannenbaum"?  What the hell is your problem with Frank Tannenbaum?  And why are you bringing it into this discussion?   

[CeeKay]

I'm such a moron.

QFT.

"Quiet Frank Tannenbaum"?  What the hell is your problem with Frank Tannenbaum?  And why are you bringing it into this discussion?   

I thought it meant Quit F@ckIng Teggy.

[Teggy]

 

[Purge]

I'm such a moron.

QFT.

"Quiet Frank Tannenbaum"?  What the hell is your problem with Frank Tannenbaum?  And why are you bringing it into this discussion?   

I thought it meant Quit F@ckIng Teggy.

See? Look what you did!

Teggy needs to get F@cked just as much as Hepcat, who was REALLY reaching for a way out of admitting to being a moron?

[wonderpug]

I've never played an Ass Creed.  If I were to play just one, which should I get?

If you're going to look at it that way, I would say read a summary of 1 and play 2. Brotherhood is an improvement over 2, but 2 is very much worth playing while 1 can get very tiresome. If you like 2 you can play Brotherhood.

So Brotherhood is better than 2 in most ways except that its story isn't as good?

[metallicorphan]

I've never played an Ass Creed.  If I were to play just one, which should I get?

If you're going to look at it that way, I would say read a summary of 1 and play 2. Brotherhood is an improvement over 2, but 2 is very much worth playing while 1 can get very tiresome. If you like 2 you can play Brotherhood.

So Brotherhood is better than 2 in most ways except that its story isn't as good?

there is a reason why Brotherhood was not called Assassins Creed 3,because all except name Brotherhood was actually the second half of the Assassins Creed 2 story

Assassins Creed 2 + Assassins Creed Brotherhood=Assassins Creed 2


great pic BTW Raz   

[Purge]

I've never played an Ass Creed.  If I were to play just one, which should I get?

If you're going to look at it that way, I would say read a summary of 1 and play 2. Brotherhood is an improvement over 2, but 2 is very much worth playing while 1 can get very tiresome. If you like 2 you can play Brotherhood.

So Brotherhood is better than 2 in most ways except that its story isn't as good?

there is a reason why Brotherhood was not called Assassins Creed 3,because all except name Brotherhood was actually the second half of the Assassins Creed 2 story

Assassins Creed 2 + Assassins Creed Brotherhood=Assassins Creed 2


great pic BTW Raz  

I'd argue that while Brotherhood was an extension of AC2, it is a non-important component. What actually happened in AC:B that affects the story of the modern assassins guild that wouldn't be explained away in 30 seconds of cutscene footage at the beginning of AC3? The Ezio stuff is nice and all, but it isn't critical to the overarching storyline.

[metallicorphan]

I've never played an Ass Creed.  If I were to play just one, which should I get?

If you're going to look at it that way, I would say read a summary of 1 and play 2. Brotherhood is an improvement over 2, but 2 is very much worth playing while 1 can get very tiresome. If you like 2 you can play Brotherhood.

So Brotherhood is better than 2 in most ways except that its story isn't as good?

there is a reason why Brotherhood was not called Assassins Creed 3,because all except name Brotherhood was actually the second half of the Assassins Creed 2 story

Assassins Creed 2 + Assassins Creed Brotherhood=Assassins Creed 2


great pic BTW Raz  

I'd argue that while Brotherhood was an extension of AC2, it is a non-important component. What actually happened in AC:B that affects the story of the modern assassins guild that wouldn't be explained away in 30 seconds of cutscene footage at the beginning of AC3? The Ezio stuff is nice and all, but it isn't critical to the overarching storyline.

i was actually thinking of all that happens with Derek

[Purge]

i was actually thinking of all that happens with Derek

Spoiler for ...and my point was...:

It was assumed that the piece of Adam (IIRC that's what the orb was called) was found at the end of AC2 in Desmond's memories. The further investigation to its exact hiding spot isn't critical though - I think AC3 will end up telling of the team finding Adam, and then Desmond splitting with it and wounding/killing Lucy.

If brotherhood didn't exist, this would have been, at most, a 5 minute scene. I don't think AC3 is going to leave non-brotherhood players in the dark on that element.

That being said, it certainly was a welcome addition, and showed that Ubisoft was really raising the bar on this. They lost the creative genius behind the Assassin's Creed game (Patrice Desilets), who took a break and will be returning to the industry at THQ Montreal.

What happened to Derek? Is that the brit?

[Razgon]

I've never played an Ass Creed.  If I were to play just one, which should I get?

If you're going to look at it that way, I would say read a summary of 1 and play 2. Brotherhood is an improvement over 2, but 2 is very much worth playing while 1 can get very tiresome. If you like 2 you can play Brotherhood.

So Brotherhood is better than 2 in most ways except that its story isn't as good?

Get Assassins Creed 2 - Its by far the better game, and is my choice for second best Console game ever. Brotherhood is great as well, and very innovative, but if you care at all about story, get AC2.

[Purge]

You must have been referring to Desmond. I checked the wiki, I was thinking of Shaun (and Becca, who work with Lucy Stillman).

[hepcat]

Teggy needs to get F@cked just as much as Hepcat, who was REALLY reaching for a way out of admitting to being a moron?

Trust me, I will ALWAYS cop to being an idiot.  I tell anyone within earshot that I should be sterilized in order to prevent a future generation of hepcat's that can't figure out they're supposed to pull on doors with signs that read "PULL", and don't leave common household items in the fridge by accident when getting a snack.

[Purge]

I've been meaning to ask you, did the charges ever stick?

As I understand it, slang dictates that as "pulling" but it ain't what the mall owners had in mind.

[metallicorphan]

yes sorry i meant Desmond,not sure where the hell i got Derek from

[CeeKay]

yes sorry i meant Desmond,not sure where the hell i got Derek from

we all know youw ere staring dreamily up at your poster of Derek Smart.

[hepcat]

yes sorry i meant Desmond,not sure where the hell i got Derek from

we all know youw ere staring dreamily up at your poster of Derek Smart.

is he waving his PhD in that photo?

[metallicorphan]

yes sorry i meant Desmond,not sure where the hell i got Derek from

we all know youw ere staring dreamily up at your poster of Derek Smart.

i had to look him up to see who you meant,at first i thought you meant this guy

[msteelers]

Start with 2. The original is ok, but once you play the game for a few hours you've done absolutely everything there is to do. You can read a summary online, but I think the series does a good job of summarizing what happened in the previous games.

And if you end up liking the story, jump right into Brotherhood. The gameplay is nearly identical to 2, but it does more to advance Desmond's story than all of the other games combined.

[TiLT]

I just played through the entirety of Brotherhood, including all missions available from all sources. The only story that has any effect on the overall storyline here happens in the last 5 minutes of the game. The rest is completely irrelevant. Ezio's role is over, yet you spend almost the entire game controlling him. It's a good game, but don't expect it to do much to progress events beyond what you saw in AC2, except for those last 5 minutes.

[msteelers]

I just played through the entirety of Brotherhood, including all missions available from all sources. The only story that has any effect on the overall storyline here happens in the last 5 minutes of the game. The rest is completely irrelevant. Ezio's role is over, yet you spend almost the entire game controlling him. It's a good game, but don't expect it to do much to progress events beyond what you saw in AC2, except for those last 5 minutes.

I agree that Ezio's storyline is largely filler, but Desmond's storyline is much more significant and lasts throughout the game and not just the last five minutes.

[CeeKay]

just remember this magical phrase when playing Brotherhood and the game will be significantly better:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Fuck 100% Synchronization.

it immedediately alleviates any tearing out of the hair when Ezio blows the optional goals by deciding to try and run up a wall instead of moving in the direction you want to go in either a mission with a timer for said goals or when he is supposed to remain undetected.  sure, you may miss out on actually playing some back stories, but you can easily look them up on youtube.

[metallicorphan]

just remember this magical phrase when playing Brotherhood and the game will be significantly better:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Fuck 100% Synchronization.

 

A Billion % agree!!!

[TiLT]

I just played through the entirety of Brotherhood, including all missions available from all sources. The only story that has any effect on the overall storyline here happens in the last 5 minutes of the game. The rest is completely irrelevant. Ezio's role is over, yet you spend almost the entire game controlling him. It's a good game, but don't expect it to do much to progress events beyond what you saw in AC2, except for those last 5 minutes.

I agree that Ezio's storyline is largely filler, but Desmond's storyline is much more significant and lasts throughout the game and not just the last five minutes.

I disagree completely. They talk a lot in Desmond's storyline, but there's no character or relationship growth beyond what we saw in AC2, and we learn very little new about what's going on in the world. I get the impression the developers tread very carefully to avoid turning the storyline into a mandatory part of what they had originally envisioned as a trilogy.

[CeeKay]

finally finished this last night, and on the ending:

Spoiler for Hiden:

wow, talk about a cliffhanger.

anyways, not going to bother getting 100% sync on other stuff to get the Cristina memories, so here's the youtube links for them if anyoen else wants to see them too without going through the trouble:

1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJS-R-ejDVE
2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duw3gyNbeVY
3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feJmGlNvk1I
4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa9zZ7qAqKY
5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiPKuZle2Ec