Started by El Guapo, October 21, 2004, 05:52:37 PM
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Guessing that the Yankees still have the financial means to outbid Boston, I think the Red Sox are in trouble this off-season because of key free agents they have (Varitek, Cabrerra, Lowe, and Martinez). Steinbrenner will make them pay.
Nomar's either going to Anaheim ...
QuoteNomar's either going to Anaheim ...No!! Please, God!! Don't do this to me!! :x
lol, this may turn into the biggest joke in sports history.
the reason the yankees couldn't get randy johnson from the d-backs? the LAST PLACE diamondbacks who are STARVING for young talent couldn't find ANYONE in the yankee farm system that they wanted.that says enough about the state of the union in yankeeville.
QuoteGuessing that the Yankees still have the financial means to outbid Boston, I think the Red Sox are in trouble this off-season because of key free agents they have (Varitek, Cabrerra, Lowe, and Martinez). Steinbrenner will make them pay. Are you kidding me? Didn't the A-Rod thing teach you anything? Contreras? Both guys the Yankees stole from the Sox with George's money.I HOPE Lowe and Martinez are on the Yankees next year. You want a meltdown waiting to happen and a fragile 6 inning pitcher? Cabrera and Varitek will probably be back and if they aren't, Theo will find suitable replacements for less money.
Well first of all Varitek is not irreplaceable. Doug Mirabelli, who is not as good as Varitek IMO, is certainly good enough to be a starting catcher if Varitek wants some obscene amount of money.
Second, why would the Yankees want Varitek? They got Posada through 2007 and he has a no trade clause (last I recalled). Varitek won't sign with a team unless he gets most of the starts.
Third, Varitek is considered to be the "captain" or leader of the Red Sox. Who knows if that plays a factor, but I don't see him having any sort of Nomar-like loathing.He'll probably command a high price with asshat Boras as his agent, but the Sox could definitely sign him and Cabrera if they let Pedro and Lowe go (over $21 mil in contracts right there).
Steinbrenner would want Varitek because the Red Sox want him, because he is the the supposed leader of the Red Sox, and because he would be a jump in quality over Posada. I wasn't aware that Posada has a no trade clause in his contract, which would change things if true. I would think the Yankees would love to deal Posada and sign Varitek.
I wouldn't give Varitek (or any catcher) any more credit for winning a game than for losing one.
I had it in my head that Varitek was a much better hitter than Posada, but the numbers don't prove that. I obviously have no idea what I was talking about.
Hmmm...and what team has the second highest payroll? So the Yankees are evil for spending but the Red Sox aren't? Is it strange that the teams with the 2 highest payrolls were playing to go to the series. Great hypocrisy decrying the Yankees spending and not the Sox.
The funny thing is, I'd bet my house on the fact that these same Yankee fans who resort to the 'Sox can't complain about Yankee payroll because they are 2nd in payroll' would be the first to accuse Sox management of being 'cheapskates who don't want to spend what's necessary to put out a winning team' if they didn't try and keep up with the Yanks.
A. You automatically assume I am a Yankees fan for not supporting an anti-Yankees viewpoint, that's pretty flawed logic right there. These anti-Yankee arguments are old and outrageous too.
B. The Sox wanted ARod right? Were going to pick up that contract with some restructuring.
Florida bought a series, the forst one, you could argue Arizona did too...and so the Yankees alone are the root of all evil that is baseball.
C. Wouldn't the Angels and other medium to small market successful teams be evidence that the Yankees are not ruining baseball? Unless you are so virulently anti-Yankees that facts don't matter.
Perhaps this is where I don't see the logic if your stated glee is the Yankees ruining the Yankees. They were 1 inning from the series, last year they were in the series. Only you fixate on Steinbreners statement that winning the World Series is the only acceptable thing...which as an owner of a baseball team why wouldn't that be your definition, except for owners who say profit is the only goal.The Yankees are not ruined or going to ruin, they are a good team who plays mostly fundamentally sound baseball, they rarely shoot their mouths off unlike so many other teams/players(Red Sox large among that group). if a player really crosses the line he is gone quick. Torre is just a class act all around. I would say no matter what the Red Sox do this one year they are much more a circus than the Yankees are.Maybe they will go through a correctional period like they did in the 80s, maybe but as long as Torre is manager I'll bet they remain a class act.
Rodrieguez a cheater? He was called out. .
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