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« on: January 29, 2007, 03:05:20 PM »

WII-KLY UPDATE: FOUR NEW CLASSIC GAMES ANNOUNCED FOR WII SHOP CHANNEL


Jan. 29, 2007

Today Nintendo adds four new classic games to the popular Wii™ video game system's Wii Shop Channel. The games go live at 9 a.m. Pacific time. Nintendo adds new games to the channel every Monday. Wii owners with a high-speed Internet connection can redeem Wii Points to download the games. Wii Points can be purchased in the Wii Shop Channel or at retail outlets. This week's new games are:

Mario Kart 64™ (Nintendoฎ 64, 1-4 players, 1,000 Wii Points): Put the pedal to the metal in this worthy successor to the Super NESฎ classic, Super Mario Kartฎ. Mario Kart 64 boasts great graphics, tons of unique power-ups and a stunning 3-D version of the legendary Battle Mode. With improved courses and a revolutionary head-to-head four-player mode, Mario Kart 64 is sure to win the heart of any race-driving fan. The game includes 20 different courses filled with dips, valleys, jumps, tunnels and bridges. Smooth, precise control – a trademark of all games from Mario creator Shigeru Miyamoto – will bring players back time and time again for freewheeling fun.

Contraฎ III: The Alien Wars™ (Super NESฎ, 1-2 players, 800 Wii Points): In the year 2636, the Alien War continues, and it's up to two soldiers, Jimbo and Scully, to put a stop to the alien invasion. The aliens have ravaged the Earth with their powerful organic and technological weapons. Players can join with a partner and battle through six stages of nonstop run-and-gun action. Collect power-ups, including bombs, flamethrowers, spread shots, lasers and machine guns to take out the aliens. Control Jimbo and Scully as they travel through war-torn cities, race on air bikes, ride missiles and ultimately break into the alien base to defeat the alien boss once and for all.

Bonanza Bros.™ (Sega Genesis, 1-2 players, 800 Wii Points): Mobo and Robo Bonanza are enjoying their favorite television show when the picture crackles and the shadowy figure of a mysterious stranger appears on the screen. This figure asks them to collect certain items that he has placed inside various buildings to test his security force. If they return the items successfully, Mobo and Robo will be rewarded. The two of them state that they will get the job done in just three minutes. However, little do they know that each building is packed with security guards who will raise the alarm if they are caught red-handed. Fortunately both Mobo and Robo are equipped with bullets that can knock the guards unconscious for a few seconds. A huge reward will be given out if Mobo and Robo are apprehended. Help the infamous Bonanza Bros. infiltrate a number of different locations ranging from banks to mansions to casinos, and don't get caught.

Comix Zone™ (Sega Genesis, 1 player, 800 Wii Points): Sketch Turner is an artist in New York City. One day while Sketch is drawing, a huge thunderstorm strikes the city. A bolt of lightning hits Sketch's image and brings it to life. That image is Mortus, a megalomaniacal mutant who wants to become real and rule the earth. Mortus magically transports Sketch into the pages of his comic book so that he can end his creator's life and become real. Inside the comic book, Sketch meets General Alissa Cyan, who believes he is a superhero that came to save their post-apocalyptic world from the evil brought by Mortus's hand. Now that he's a comic book superhero, Sketch can really put the hurt on the bad guys. Instantly, Sketch can fight like a one-man mercenary platoon.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2007, 03:10:52 PM »

Definitely getting Mario Kart 64.

And, Ocarina of Time has been announced for February release in Japan which bodes well us getting it in the next month or two. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2007, 03:11:41 PM »

Mario Kart 64? Looks like I'll be making my first Wii Channel purchase  nod
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2007, 04:42:52 PM »

as you prolly know,i got mario kart last week on VC,and a lot of people have said how it looks and plays smoother...i thought it was just me,being used to the GBA super circuit game....tell me what you think
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2007, 05:08:07 PM »

Where do you find the schedule for game releases? I would like to see what I missed.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2007, 05:10:50 PM »

Quote from: jblank on January 29, 2007, 05:08:07 PM

Where do you find the schedule for game releases? I would like to see what I missed.

Upcoming stuff gets reported on by the various gaming news sites. 

As to what you've missed I'm sure there is a site that has archived everything but it's pretty easy just to browse through it on the Wii itself. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2007, 05:17:02 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on January 29, 2007, 05:10:50 PM

Quote from: jblank on January 29, 2007, 05:08:07 PM

Where do you find the schedule for game releases? I would like to see what I missed.

Upcoming stuff gets reported on by the various gaming news sites. 

As to what you've missed I'm sure there is a site that has archived everything but it's pretty easy just to browse through it on the Wii itself. 

I'm at work or I would browse the Wii. I will just check IGN and see if they have it. Thanks!
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2007, 05:28:14 PM »

What does 1,000 points amount to in $?
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2007, 05:34:40 PM »

$10 sir -

1 point - $.01
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2007, 05:39:07 PM »

Quote from: Zimix on January 29, 2007, 05:28:14 PM

What does 1,000 points amount to in $?

1 point = 1 penny, 100 points = 1 dollar etc. Much better than Microsoft's 80 points = 1 dollar

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2007, 05:49:22 PM »

My wife LOVES the n64 version of Mario Kart so looks like I will be making my first VC purchase as well. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2007, 05:55:41 PM »

Quote from: jblank on January 29, 2007, 05:17:02 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on January 29, 2007, 05:10:50 PM

Quote from: jblank on January 29, 2007, 05:08:07 PM

Where do you find the schedule for game releases? I would like to see what I missed.

Upcoming stuff gets reported on by the various gaming news sites. 

As to what you've missed I'm sure there is a site that has archived everything but it's pretty easy just to browse through it on the Wii itself. 

I'm at work or I would browse the Wii. I will just check IGN and see if they have it. Thanks!
There's always Wikipedia's list of virtual console titles.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2007, 06:28:43 PM »

I wonder: if Nintendo ever releases a VC version of Majora's Mask, would it have the same audio and stability problems that the GameCube version had?  I know it's a controversial opinion, but I thought Majora's Mask was a better game than Ocarina of Time, and I'd happily pay a few dollars to get a more flawless remake.

I'd also love to see Chrono Trigger appear as a VC title someday... nod

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2007, 06:34:09 PM »

Quote from: Autistic Angel on January 29, 2007, 06:28:43 PM

I wonder: if Nintendo ever releases a VC version of Majora's Mask, would it have the same audio and stability problems that the GameCube version had?  I know it's a controversial opinion, but I thought Majora's Mask was a better game than Ocarina of Time, and I'd happily pay a few dollars to get a more flawless remake.

I'd also love to see Chrono Trigger appear as a VC title someday... nod

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I think every game is fair play for the Virtual Console, I mean why wouldn't Square-Enix want a basically free money maker? The costs aren't minimal but I am fairly certain that most companies have a team of 3 or 4 at most working on getting these games into emulation. As for Majora's Mask, I think Ocarina of Time will be a good estimator, but if Mario Kart and Mario 64 are any indication it seems like the Wii's N64 emulator gets rid of that old N64 fuzziness and generates a much cleaner, crisper and more stable looking game.

It's only a matter of time before we see the Dragon Quest titles and what have you start to pour forth in the Japanese region, all we can hope is that these companies see value in translating some of the games and bringing them to other regions VC.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2007, 06:35:16 PM »

Which system will release WORMS (2 preferred) first?
Who ever dose will get my system of the year vote. Well for VC\Arcade.
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2007, 06:45:13 PM »

Quote from: Tebunker on January 29, 2007, 06:34:09 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on January 29, 2007, 06:28:43 PM

I wonder: if Nintendo ever releases a VC version of Majora's Mask, would it have the same audio and stability problems that the GameCube version had?  I know it's a controversial opinion, but I thought Majora's Mask was a better game than Ocarina of Time, and I'd happily pay a few dollars to get a more flawless remake.

I'd also love to see Chrono Trigger appear as a VC title someday... nod

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I think every game is fair play for the Virtual Console, I mean why wouldn't Square-Enix want a basically free money maker? The costs aren't minimal but I am fairly certain that most companies have a team of 3 or 4 at most working on getting these games into emulation. As for Majora's Mask, I think Ocarina of Time will be a good estimator, but if Mario Kart and Mario 64 are any indication it seems like the Wii's N64 emulator gets rid of that old N64 fuzziness and generates a much cleaner, crisper and more stable looking game.

It's only a matter of time before we see the Dragon Quest titles and what have you start to pour forth in the Japanese region, all we can hope is that these companies see value in translating some of the games and bringing them to other regions VC.

But if Squenix could release Chrono Trigger on the DS or PSP at $39.99 why would they release it on the VC for $10?  I doubt we will see any Final Fantasy's or Dragon Quests on the VC for a while.

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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2007, 06:56:56 PM »

Quote from: denoginizer on January 29, 2007, 06:45:13 PM

Quote from: Tebunker on January 29, 2007, 06:34:09 PM

Quote from: Autistic Angel on January 29, 2007, 06:28:43 PM

I wonder: if Nintendo ever releases a VC version of Majora's Mask, would it have the same audio and stability problems that the GameCube version had?  I know it's a controversial opinion, but I thought Majora's Mask was a better game than Ocarina of Time, and I'd happily pay a few dollars to get a more flawless remake.

I'd also love to see Chrono Trigger appear as a VC title someday... nod

-Autistic Angel


I think every game is fair play for the Virtual Console, I mean why wouldn't Square-Enix want a basically free money maker? The costs aren't minimal but I am fairly certain that most companies have a team of 3 or 4 at most working on getting these games into emulation. As for Majora's Mask, I think Ocarina of Time will be a good estimator, but if Mario Kart and Mario 64 are any indication it seems like the Wii's N64 emulator gets rid of that old N64 fuzziness and generates a much cleaner, crisper and more stable looking game.

It's only a matter of time before we see the Dragon Quest titles and what have you start to pour forth in the Japanese region, all we can hope is that these companies see value in translating some of the games and bringing them to other regions VC.

But if Squenix could release Chrono Trigger on the DS at $39.99 why would they release it on the VC for $10?  I doubt we will see any Final Fantasy's or Dragon Quests on the VC for a while.



Well, that's easy, it's about costs associated with the development. Note that I am just speculating here; Do you spend a couple of weeks and $20000 to put something on the Virtual Console, or do you spend several months and probably over $250000 to make a DS game, and don't forget the hidden costs of advertising, manufacturing(manuals, cases etc.) and shipping. Square hasn't just been emulating their games on the GBA, they've made additions, fixed translation and added in extra modes. That costs a lot of money; Meanwhile the VC titles are straight up emulations of the originals, warts and all. So I doubt we will see games like Crono Trigger and Dragon Quest 4 on the DS anytime soon.

As well, these games didn't perform nearly as well as the Final Fantasy's in the states, so there is much less risk for them putting it on the VC. They would more than likely make more money. The VC game that cost them the (my estimated) $20k in salaries they paid would be a pittance, Figure that Nintendo probably takes two or three bucks off the top for an $8 SNES game, so they net roughly $5 a title with no ancillarry costs for things like advertising and manufactuing. Just take Zelda; A Link to the Past that Nitendo just put out for example, I believe their press release the other day said it has been dowloaded over 1 million times. Nintendo just made a 6 to 8 million dollars easy. SquareEnix could make several Million dollars in profit for minimal work. Yeah we may still get the DS enhanced versions sooner or later, but I think people should be a lot more optimistic about getting these games on the Virtual Console.
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2007, 07:12:51 PM »

I'm with denongizer- the only SE titles we will see are those that have already had at least one re-release on GBA or DS.  So FF1,2, & 4 are probably fair game for this year.  I doubt we'll see FF5&6 until sometime next year on the VC.  Chrono Trigger still has value and I expect a GBA port at the minimum so, again, expect to see that delayed for the VC until later.  For SE it's the best of both worlds- get all of the profits associated with the more "premium priced" GBA or DS game and then reap the "free money" from the VC later.

Remember Tebunker, that 6 to 8 million that Nintendo made on top of LttP is in addition to the money they've made on the GBA port that's been around for a while (and it sold very well IIRC). 

Most companies can't really expect to be able to re-release their old games on the GBA or DS and make a large amount of money and for them VC is a slam dunk.  But Nintendo and SE are pretty unique in that their properties really retain their value and both companies will exploit that. 

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As for Majora's Mask, I think Ocarina of Time will be a good estimator, but if Mario Kart and Mario 64 are any indication it seems like the Wii's N64 emulator gets rid of that old N64 fuzziness and generates a much cleaner, crisper and more stable looking game.

The issue is whether Nintendo has updated their N64 emulator.  OoT from the Cube Collector's disk already benefited from the improvements we are seeing on the VC (cleaner, crisper, better framerate) but MM, since it required the RAM expansion and presumably Nintendo's emulator wasn't written with that in mind, wasn't as good of an experience emulated on the Cube as OoT.

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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2007, 07:36:33 PM »

I still don't think we will see Chrono Trigger get an update on the DS/GBA, if it hasn't happened by now the chances of it ever happening are slim, same with the Dragon Quest titles and other smaller games. That's why I think we will see them on the VC first, they are considered lesser titles (not DQ but some of the others) by SE and therefore don't warrant the expense of an update. They are more focussed on newer and more original titles for the DS and those titles have been announced. So I will remain optimistic about seeing certain titles on the VC first.
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2007, 07:56:08 PM »

Chrono Trigger, while not as successful as FF series, is an order of magnitude or more successful than almost everything that has seen VC release so far other than first party stuff.  The biggest impediment to a Chrono Trigger GBA port is that the GBA is all but dead in Japan (though it's still posting amazing sales in the US).  But it's the next logical game for release after FF6 and since FF6 hasn't even released here yet, we might still see a GBA port by Christmas of this year.  If nothing is announced by the end of the year then, yeah, I would agree that it won't be happening.

But I think it would be fiscal stupidity to release a VC version first and then portable version later.  Generally you start at a higher price and work down.  Having an $8.00 VC release would severely undercut any potential portable market.

I agree on Dragon Quest, though but that market is different anyway- DQ 1-3 have already had enhanced portable releases (the excellent GBC ports).  And Japan has seen DQ 1-5 get at least one or more remakes.  So VC is the next logical step for them.  Though we will likely only seen the US released DQ 1-4. 
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2007, 06:31:13 AM »

Quote from: jblank on January 29, 2007, 05:08:07 PM

Where do you find the schedule for game releases? I would like to see what I missed.

i use this site
http://www.vc-reviews.com/

as for games on VC,cant wait for more zelda(ALTTP please!!!)....starfox,mario world,marioRPG,any squeenix games(squaresoft at the time)...or maybe even perfect dark(doubt it as now exclusively for 360)...or maybe even goldeneye(again....dont look good)
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2007, 02:16:53 PM »

Played about an hour of Mario Kart 64 last night.  It was very enjoyable but the controls felt very floaty coming from MKDS. 
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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2007, 09:11:28 PM »

Happily it looks like I was wrong and we may be getting CT on the VC sooner rather than later:

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There have also been rumors of a possible Chrono Trigger sequel, but Tanaka quickly shot those down: the staff isn't available. Getting the original creative team together for a new installment would be a difficult proposal, and Tanaka speculated a more viable option would be a virtual console release of the SNES classic. Right now, there's a 50/50 chance that could happen -- it simply depends on copyright issues, apparently.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2007, 01:14:34 AM »

Hey now, I've started to play Chrono Trigger on my PSP biggrin

I am REALLY enjoying Mario Kart 64...and Contra 3 is really fun with a friend!
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2007, 05:07:03 AM »

Quote from: TheMissingLink on February 02, 2007, 01:14:34 AM

Hey now, I've started to play Chrono Trigger on my PSP biggrin

I am REALLY enjoying Mario Kart 64...and Contra 3 is really fun with a friend!

When was the last time the SNES emulator for PSP was updated?  I messed with it quite a bit about a year and a half ago and it was decent but most of the games I was really interested in playing on it (Tales of Phantasia, Dragon Quest 6, SD3) were too much for it and it ran like a slug.  Chrono Trigger was playable but still had way too many frameskips for my taste. 
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2007, 06:23:57 AM »

with mario kart 64 there is a fault with the game and you are unable to save ghost laps to the Wii

and japan are gonna be paying 1200 points for ocarina of time...hopefully it wont be the same for us,i dont think it will i think it will still be 1000 points,any more and i dont think i will have it....i have the zelda wind waker(the second free disc) 2 version game of it(master quest and normal)as well as the 4 game disc of it(zelda 1,zelda 2,ocarina and majoras).
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2007, 08:22:23 PM »

Anyone know why the original Metroid isn't on Virtual Console?
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2007, 08:26:22 PM »

Quote from: Fireball1244 on February 02, 2007, 08:22:23 PM

Anyone know why the original Metroid isn't on Virtual Console?

It's only a matter of time.  Nintendo is spreading out their first party stuff.  Maybe they are holding it to coincide with Metroid Prime 3's release in a couple of months?  Though I really want Super Metroid on there a lot more than the first game. 
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2007, 08:33:01 PM »

Quote from: Fireball1244 on February 02, 2007, 08:22:23 PM

Anyone know why the original Metroid isn't on Virtual Console?

The original Metroid Prime is currently available for the GBA as 1 of the titles in the Classics series. So possibly Nintendo doesn't want to redirect any sales away from the GBA game to a VC release. Although they did release the original Legend of Zelda which is also a classic series game.
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2007, 08:55:33 PM »

Quote from: kronovan on February 02, 2007, 08:33:01 PM

The original Metroid Prime is currently available for the GBA as 1 of the titles in the Classics series

Heh. I can only imagine what a port of "Metroid Prime" would look like on a GBA!  icon_smile

I too wait eagerly for Super Metroid. Every week Nintendo unveils new VC titles and Super Metroid isn't on the list, I die a little more inside.
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