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« on: March 19, 2014, 05:13:22 PM »

Some new images popped up today:






Love the timeframe and place this is set in.  France around Napoleon and the revolution?  This could be very interesting and a return to the AC we remember from II/Brotherhood.

From Kotaku, they also mention that a 360/PS3 AC game codenamed Comet is in development.  I guess we can look forward to targeted development and not just ports with added in effects.  

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2014, 05:46:48 PM »

I think it would be a good idea to add that these are leaked shots of an internal build that's probably not even alpha at this point. I'm sure a bunch of people around the Internet are saying various variations of "it looks like crap" right now, which is extremely unfair. The devs working on this are probably feeling pretty heartbroken that their game had to be revealed to the world in this way.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2014, 06:06:26 PM »

good recommendation.  added until we get some better pics
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 08:30:59 PM »

I wonder if the 360/PS3 game will be a companion game to the PS4/XBO version, like Liberation was to AC3.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 09:41:17 PM »

I expect it'll be a full-fledged AC game using the old engine, though I suspect the story won't be essential. It might be a side story, but it's likely to be much larger in scale than Liberation was.

The PS4/Xbox One game is supposedly built on a new engine, so it's harder to know what to expect from it. The "Parkour Up" and "Parkour Down" buttons in those screens hint at some interesting (and damned necessary) changes to the formula. Hell, I'll be happy if they give me a way to run without accidentally climbing anything I bump into.
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2014, 03:57:20 AM »

Quote from: TiLT on March 19, 2014, 09:41:17 PM

Hell, I'll be happy if they give me a way to run without accidentally climbing anything I bump into.

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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2014, 03:57:45 AM »

Quote from: TiLT on March 19, 2014, 09:41:17 PM

The "Parkour Up" and "Parkour Down" buttons in those screens hint at some interesting (and damned necessary) changes to the formula. Hell, I'll be happy if they give me a way to run without accidentally climbing anything I bump into.

Yes!  I was shocked to play Black Flag and see that they still had those problems that plagued the first game.  Big changes need to be made to evolve their formula.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2014, 04:40:40 AM »

Yeah, the lighting in those shots are definitely what I'd consider alpha dev lighting. No effects, no post processing, probably not even taking into account much in the way of shaders. It's just the most basic lights thrown into a scene so you can see what stuff is in the scene.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2014, 03:38:49 PM »

Ahem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLcjwqXATIM
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2014, 04:21:34 PM »

French Revolution does not seem as interesting as pirate Caribbean.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2014, 04:25:26 PM »

Depends on how much they update the gameplay.

There's going to be a lot of intrigue in the area, which means more direct Assassin vs. Templar stuff compared to AC4. If they play their cards right, they could revitalize the story that they've almost abandoned at this point.

What I do hope is that they do more with doing assassin-y stuff while on the ground. I mean have more interesting options and abilities while on the ground, not overcomplicated ground missions.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2014, 05:40:00 PM »

I'm really excited for that element.  it was so distant in Black Flag that whenever I did those missions I felt like "oh yeah, Templars.  I'd forgotten about those guys".  don't get me wrong, I loved IV and the pirating is one of the reasons I did, but it was the least AC game of them all. 

I do feel the loss of a strong present-tense protaganist is hurting that part of the game though.  sure, it was nice to invert the usual by working for the "bad guys", but I never felt more that the Abstergo bits were more than a speed bump in the narrative of the game. 

loved the framing of that video.  Rich vs poor, large architecture (happy that we'll get this again) and a sense of scale that matches 2/Brotherhood.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2014, 06:04:00 PM »

I hope they make the game more mission-focused this time around.

While I had a blast with AC4 and put in over 40 hours with it, the missions seemed to be an afterthought in favor of hunting down collectibles. After awhile, I almost dreaded going to a new island because it was basically a shopping list: Get 4 treasure chests, 2 Aztec stones, 3 Sea Shanties, 2 Assassin Jobs, and a carton of milk.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2014, 06:29:05 PM »

I hated the milk missions. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2014, 06:31:44 PM »

Quote from: farley2k on March 21, 2014, 06:29:05 PM

I hated the milk missions. 

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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2014, 07:58:00 PM »

Quote from: farley2k on March 21, 2014, 06:29:05 PM

I hated the milk missions. 

you must not have unlocked the special 'hot cocoa' missions  ninja
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2014, 12:16:50 AM »

Quote from: leo8877 on March 21, 2014, 04:21:34 PM

French Revolution does not seem as interesting as pirate Caribbean.

Ubisoft being a French company, it seems more likely than not. Besides, we can have a plot twist where it turns out that the Scarlet Pimpernel was an Assassin and Robespierre the Head Templar icon_biggrin
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2014, 09:30:34 AM »

I'm kind of annoyed at the new preview video they put out. Ubisoft is the worst company in gaming when it comes to producing so-called "bullshots". You'll never see them release a screenshot or a video that hasn't been heavily doctored. They claim the video is in-engine, but I can assure you that what you're seeing there is not even close to what you'll see in the game when it's out. Just the fact that the picture has been heavily super-sampled (rendered at extreme resolutions, like at least 4k, and then scaled down to create perfectly smooth AA) is telling enough in itself. I would assume the video is rendered in a 3d graphics tool (Maya, for example) using in-game assets.

Ubisoft always lies in its preview material.
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2014, 03:27:58 PM »

Far Cry 3 was the worst example of this.
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2014, 08:04:40 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on March 22, 2014, 09:30:34 AM

I'm kind of annoyed at the new preview video they put out. Ubisoft is the worst company in gaming when it comes to producing so-called "bullshots". You'll never see them release a screenshot or a video that hasn't been heavily doctored. They claim the video is in-engine, but I can assure you that what you're seeing there is not even close to what you'll see in the game when it's out. Just the fact that the picture has been heavily super-sampled (rendered at extreme resolutions, like at least 4k, and then scaled down to create perfectly smooth AA) is telling enough in itself. I would assume the video is rendered in a 3d graphics tool (Maya, for example) using in-game assets.

Ubisoft always lies in its preview material.

Or it's just shot from the PC build.  slywink
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2014, 08:10:33 PM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on March 22, 2014, 08:04:40 PM

Quote from: TiLT on March 22, 2014, 09:30:34 AM

I'm kind of annoyed at the new preview video they put out. Ubisoft is the worst company in gaming when it comes to producing so-called "bullshots". You'll never see them release a screenshot or a video that hasn't been heavily doctored. They claim the video is in-engine, but I can assure you that what you're seeing there is not even close to what you'll see in the game when it's out. Just the fact that the picture has been heavily super-sampled (rendered at extreme resolutions, like at least 4k, and then scaled down to create perfectly smooth AA) is telling enough in itself. I would assume the video is rendered in a 3d graphics tool (Maya, for example) using in-game assets.

Ubisoft always lies in its preview material.

Or it's just shot from the PC build.  slywink

Trust me, it's not. What I said above is true whether you're talking about the PC or console version of the game.
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2014, 03:40:23 PM »

4-player co-op coming to AC Unity? expect a demo reel of this at E3 along with single player
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2014, 04:18:03 AM »

Here's a 5 minute video of Co-op posted from MS' E3 conference.

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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2014, 06:10:10 PM »

Their showing a new gameplay section outside of a mission. lots of people walking around and a bunch of side missions popping up.   
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2014, 04:51:38 PM »

Delayed?! 


To November 11th.  Whew.  It makes October slightly less busy, and makes November somewhat ugly
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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2014, 06:41:31 PM »

What the heck is 2 weeks going to afford them?
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2014, 07:39:08 PM »

That extra polish, where crack teams of level designers hand place those crates and overhanging ledges that you inexplicably climb onto during chase scenes.
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Quote from: Caine on August 28, 2014, 07:39:08 PM

That extra polish, where crack teams of level designers hand place those crates and overhanging ledges that you inexplicably climb onto during chase scenes.

Believe it or not, but they've actually completely overhauled the control scheme for this game, and what you're describing is no longer going to be an issue. From what I understand, you've got a dedicated button for running that won't send you up walls, a button that makes you climb up, and a button that makes you climb or jump down in a safe way. They even made fun of the same thing as you in one of their recent videos and bragged about how they've solved that problem completely.
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2014, 09:32:37 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on August 28, 2014, 08:04:01 PM

Quote from: Caine on August 28, 2014, 07:39:08 PM

That extra polish, where crack teams of level designers hand place those crates and overhanging ledges that you inexplicably climb onto during chase scenes.

Believe it or not, but they've actually completely overhauled the control scheme for this game, and what you're describing is no longer going to be an issue. From what I understand, you've got a dedicated button for running that won't send you up walls, a button that makes you climb up, and a button that makes you climb or jump down in a safe way. They even made fun of the same thing as you in one of their recent videos and bragged about how they've solved that problem completely.

I really want to believe, but after buying Black Flag and being bummed that the same old controls were there I'm pretty hesitant to jump in again.  I'm glad they are at least acknowledging the problem and trying to correct it, though.
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2014, 10:09:42 PM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 28, 2014, 09:32:37 PM

Quote from: TiLT on August 28, 2014, 08:04:01 PM

Quote from: Caine on August 28, 2014, 07:39:08 PM

That extra polish, where crack teams of level designers hand place those crates and overhanging ledges that you inexplicably climb onto during chase scenes.

Believe it or not, but they've actually completely overhauled the control scheme for this game, and what you're describing is no longer going to be an issue. From what I understand, you've got a dedicated button for running that won't send you up walls, a button that makes you climb up, and a button that makes you climb or jump down in a safe way. They even made fun of the same thing as you in one of their recent videos and bragged about how they've solved that problem completely.

I really want to believe, but after buying Black Flag and being bummed that the same old controls were there I'm pretty hesitant to jump in again.  I'm glad they are at least acknowledging the problem and trying to correct it, though.
Yeah, I want to believe too.  (cue X-Files poster) I actually think they will fix this in ACU though, but making fun of AC's not-so-free running is as old as GTA's wonky player animations and Res Evil tank controls.
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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2014, 12:02:39 AM »

There was a developer video a couple or so weeks ago that addressed the system changes that are coming with ACU and it discussed the changes in the parkour system in detail. Frankly it's what convinced me to preorder.

It's sucky that the release is being delayed, my 35th wedding anniversary is on the 16th and I doubt my wife will be thrilled with me wanting to spend the day gaming icon_wink
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2014, 12:40:40 AM »

Quote from: jztemple2 on August 29, 2014, 12:02:39 AM

There was a developer video a couple or so weeks ago that addressed the system changes that are coming with ACU and it discussed the changes in the parkour system in detail. Frankly it's what convinced me to preorder.

It's sucky that the release is being delayed, my 35th wedding anniversary is on the 16th and I doubt my wife will be thrilled with me wanting to spend the day gaming icon_wink

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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2014, 04:22:42 AM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 28, 2014, 09:32:37 PM

Quote from: TiLT on August 28, 2014, 08:04:01 PM

Quote from: Caine on August 28, 2014, 07:39:08 PM

That extra polish, where crack teams of level designers hand place those crates and overhanging ledges that you inexplicably climb onto during chase scenes.

Believe it or not, but they've actually completely overhauled the control scheme for this game, and what you're describing is no longer going to be an issue. From what I understand, you've got a dedicated button for running that won't send you up walls, a button that makes you climb up, and a button that makes you climb or jump down in a safe way. They even made fun of the same thing as you in one of their recent videos and bragged about how they've solved that problem completely.

I really want to believe, but after buying Black Flag and being bummed that the same old controls were there I'm pretty hesitant to jump in again.  I'm glad they are at least acknowledging the problem and trying to correct it, though.

Black Flag was just the same old engine running on the same old consoles. Unity is a new engine on new consoles, so they've designed many of the old systems from scratch, including the controls.
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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2014, 06:59:17 PM »

Haven't really paid too much attention to this one but saw the latest 101 trailer and got very interested in it. Then I saw the requirements. Crazy high for the PC. I meet them but the requirement that really gave me pause was the 50GB download size. Yow.

With download caps (which are still stupid) that's a pretty big chunk there and has me reconsidering doing the buy for it with some other big games coming out this month.
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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2014, 09:41:04 PM »

Don't worry about buying it on PC. Ubisoft has just pulled it from Steam anyway. They now want you to buy it through uPlay, and we all love that storefront so much, don't we?

You can thank EA for this. I warned you all when EA pulled out of Steam, but nobody listened. Next up: Activision.

Oh, also, Far Cry 4 has been pulled from Steam as well.
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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2014, 10:13:48 PM »

nobody listened?  wtf did you expect us to do about it?  you crazy
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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2014, 10:18:17 PM »

Quote from: Harkonis on November 06, 2014, 10:13:48 PM

nobody listened?  wtf did you expect us to do about it?  you crazy

Do anything? Oh, I didn't expect any of you to do anything. I would have expected something other than different variations of "no way is that going to happen" though, but that was what I got.

So yeah. Oh, have you guys noticed Battle.net? You know, that storefront owned by Activision, the one that you are required to use to buy Blizzard games digitally? Isn't it starting to look a little scary right about now?
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« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2014, 10:21:49 PM »

When you buy Ubi games on Steam it's just a link to Uplay. Difference is now you have to make the link yourself.
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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2014, 10:24:21 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on November 06, 2014, 10:18:17 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on November 06, 2014, 10:13:48 PM

nobody listened?  wtf did you expect us to do about it?  you crazy

Do anything? Oh, I didn't expect any of you to do anything. I would have expected something other than different variations of "no way is that going to happen" though, but that was what I got.

So yeah. Oh, have you guys noticed Battle.net? You know, that storefront owned by Activision, the one that you are required to use to buy Blizzard games digitally? Isn't it starting to look a little scary right about now?

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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2014, 10:27:27 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on November 06, 2014, 10:21:49 PM

When you buy Ubi games on Steam it's just a link to Uplay. Difference is now you have to make the link yourself.

And you have to run uPlay constantly for automatic patching to work.

And you can forget about seeing Ubisoft games as part of the Steam sales from now on.

And you will no longer be able to use Steamworks or Steam Cloud with the games.

Nor will you be able to rely on the Steam overlay to communicate with your friends on Steam, or use the myriad of useful features available in it. I'm sure your uPlay friends list (is there even such a thing?) is fully updated, right?

And you're going to have to give Ubisoft your credit card number in order to buy from them. Not that this particular part bothers me personally, but it's going to bother a lot of people, and it adds another weak link to your personal security.

And you can forget about keeping all your games in one place. Linked up your Ubisoft games to your Steam library? Have fun rebuilding all those links every time you reinstall Steam, your OS, or change computers.

Don't make excuses for this, people! Ubisoft has done nothing to deserve your defense. It's fine to not be upset, but under no circumstance should you actually come to their defense. They don't need it, and they don't deserve it.
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