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« on: October 31, 2007, 05:32:21 PM »

so,what was due this winter,it has now been pushed back to the second quarter...so,its at least 6 months away now icon_frown

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METAL GEAR SOLID 4 GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS Release Update October 31, 2007
KONAMI announced today that "METAL GEAR SOLID 4 GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS", the latest in the METAL GEAR series, is scheduled to be released in the second quarter of 2008.

KONAMI had initially intended to release "METAL GEAR SOLID 4 GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS" this winter and has been working on the production of the title. KONAMI has decided to delay the title's release in order to make further improvements to the quality of the game and provide even greater enjoyment for more customers worldwide.

KONAMI will continue its efforts to make "METAL GEAR SOLID 4 GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS" meet everyone's expectations.

Further information regarding the release date will be announced as soon as possible.
Title: "METAL GEAR SOLID 4 GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS"
Expected Release Date: the second quarter of 2008
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2007, 06:39:02 PM »

Just another reason why not to buy a PS3.  2nd qtr of 2008 might see another price drop on the console
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2007, 06:43:43 PM »

LOL.  Another joins the Sony Failboat.

It's really difficult to imagine what else could go wrong for Sony.

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2007, 06:44:09 PM »

No MGS4, No Finial Fantasy, no exclusive GTA IV....  Why would would i even consider getting a PS3 before mid year next year?
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2007, 06:45:19 PM »

Quote from: Soulchilde on October 31, 2007, 06:39:02 PM

Just another reason why not to buy a PS3. 

I wouldn't go that far. I would much rather they wait, get it perfected, whatever, than release a pile of poo that just gives the anti-PS3 people more ammunition. If it isn't ready, it isn't ready, no biggie, play some of the other 50 games between now and Q2 2008 that are gonna be just as good or better.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2007, 06:47:40 PM »

They could just delay it to next fall now for the big pile of X-mas money. Do we even know what the big holiday titles will be in 2008?
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2007, 06:48:17 PM »

Quote from: StitchJones on October 31, 2007, 06:44:09 PM

No MGS4, No Finial Fantasy, no exclusive GTA IV....  Why would would i even consider getting a PS3 before mid year next year?

Arguably the best Blu-Ray player on the market?
Ratchet & Clank?
Etc, etc, etc.

There are many reasons to buy one. I probably play my 360 65/35 over my PS3, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth having now.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2007, 06:51:24 PM »

Heh, I'm not surprised, because for some reason I thought it was already confirmed to be delayed until summer or holiday 2008 anyway.

I've been following the game industry too long; I see most big-title delays coming from miles away. icon_biggrin
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2007, 07:01:43 PM »

Oh well.  It was delayed for a reason, and it doesn't hurt me any waiting for a polished, wonderful product.

I'll just keep playing Eye of Judgment, Resistance, and Ratchet & Clank (once I grab it) now, as well as grab Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, Unreal Tournament 3, and INFAMOUS before mid-year next year.  Boy, why did I ever consider getting a PS3 before mid-year next year?
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2007, 07:31:49 PM »

Quote from: jblank on October 31, 2007, 06:45:19 PM

If it isn't ready, it isn't ready, no biggie, play some of the other 50 games between now and Q2 2008 that are gonna be just as good or better.

PS3 games?  or you mean on any system
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2007, 07:53:31 PM »

Quote from: TheMissingLink on October 31, 2007, 07:01:43 PM

Oh well.  It was delayed for a reason, and it doesn't hurt me any waiting for a polished, wonderful product.

I'll just keep playing Eye of Judgment, Resistance, and Ratchet & Clank (once I grab it) now, as well as grab Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, Unreal Tournament 3, and INFAMOUS before mid-year next year.  Boy, why did I ever consider getting a PS3 before mid-year next year?

Good for you, but really other than Little Big Planet, none of those games interest me.  I would be getting a PS3 mostly for the great rpg's.  I can get other iterations of those game (actually better) on the 360.  Plus I get a TON more good games to play.

None of those games is a system seller, and in the big picture for Sony it's puts them even further behind the 8-ball.  I've felt for a while that they needed one other really big system selling game to go with GTA IV so people would at least consider getting a PS3 and not a 360, now If I don't have a next gen console yet come GTA IV release and I look at the two available libraries, there is no question which system I get.

Don't get me wrong, at some point I WILL buy a PS3, the question is, will I buy one in the next 3-6 months or will I wait an entire year, which I believe Sony can't afford users to say on a large scale.  They need those new buyers NOW because the gap (at least in the U.S.) is getting bigger and bigger.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2007, 08:02:38 PM »

Bad news for Sony.  I think they are starting to realize they are in trouble with the PS3.  No amount of spin can change it.

They need some big time exclusives to drive sales.  Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, etc are nice games.  But not what they really need.


They are going to get murdered this holiday season.  I don't think anything can change that now.  And I'm pretty sure they know it.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2007, 08:10:29 PM »

midway are also having problems....stranglehold we know about(30th novemeber release date here in the UK...compared to end of september i think for 360)...and now they may have to delay PS3 version of blacksite

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EDIT:oh,and i cant see MGS4 being out in April,the same month as GTA4...i dont think that would be a wise move,for both Konami and Rockstar
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2007, 08:23:19 PM »

Quote from: KePoW on October 31, 2007, 07:31:49 PM

Quote from: jblank on October 31, 2007, 06:45:19 PM

If it isn't ready, it isn't ready, no biggie, play some of the other 50 games between now and Q2 2008 that are gonna be just as good or better.

PS3 games?  or you mean on any system

Both really. The multi-platform releases are so  plentiful and high quality that there is more than enough to tide gamers over for another 6 months.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2007, 08:25:02 PM »

Only games that would compete with GTA IV are Halo, Mario and a Final Fantasy game.  Nothing else comes close.  GTA IV WILL sell systems, and it's looking more and more like it will be 360's.
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2007, 08:28:34 PM »

Oh, no one cares about Blacksite.  Delay that one forever and I'm not sure anybody would mind.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2007, 08:29:43 PM »

Quote from: StitchJones on October 31, 2007, 08:25:02 PM

GTA IV WILL sell systems, and it's looking more and more like it will be 360's.

Why?
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2007, 08:37:47 PM »

Quote from: TheMissingLink on October 31, 2007, 08:29:43 PM

Quote from: StitchJones on October 31, 2007, 08:25:02 PM

GTA IV WILL sell systems, and it's looking more and more like it will be 360's.

Why?

Lower price of entry + Larger library of games means that if people are going to buy a system for GTA it's more likely to be 360.  I'm even discounting DLC because I think most people who are just getting around to buy a next gen system for GTA probably don't know much about what DLC even means. 
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2007, 08:40:42 PM »

Because there are simply a lot more good games out for the 360 then the PS3.  When a new next gen console purchaser walks into Best Buy to get a system and GTA IV, he will see Resistance, Rachet, and a couple other games to go with that PS3.  He will also see Halo 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Lost Odessey, and a ton of other games to buy.  The tendency is to go with the system with the great games already in hand.  Don't get me wrong, there are some great multi platform games that will be out like COD4, Virtua Fighter, and of course all the sports games, but the 360 crushes the PS3 as far as exclusives right now.
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2007, 08:41:50 PM »

That sucks for MGS4. I just recently watched a trailer for the game and was surprised at how poorly the graphics have aged, 6 months later isn't going to help that cause.
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2007, 09:02:19 PM »

Quote from: jblank on October 31, 2007, 06:48:17 PM

Quote from: StitchJones on October 31, 2007, 06:44:09 PM

No MGS4, No Finial Fantasy, no exclusive GTA IV....  Why would would i even consider getting a PS3 before mid year next year?

Arguably the best Blu-Ray player on the market?
Ratchet & Clank?
Etc, etc, etc.

There are many reasons to buy one. I probably play my 360 65/35 over my PS3, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth having now.

Not looking to add fuel to the fire, but could you elaborate on some of those 'etc's   Tongue

I've been thinking long and hard about picking up a PS3, but the best reason I can come up with is buying now so I can get guaranteed backwards compatibility. That, is a pretty weak reason.
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2007, 09:27:02 PM »

Quote from: madpeon on October 31, 2007, 09:02:19 PM

Quote from: jblank on October 31, 2007, 06:48:17 PM

Quote from: StitchJones on October 31, 2007, 06:44:09 PM

No MGS4, No Finial Fantasy, no exclusive GTA IV....  Why would would i even consider getting a PS3 before mid year next year?

Arguably the best Blu-Ray player on the market?
Ratchet & Clank?
Etc, etc, etc.

There are many reasons to buy one. I probably play my 360 65/35 over my PS3, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth having now.



Not looking to add fuel to the fire, but could you elaborate on some of those 'etc's   Tongue

I've been thinking long and hard about picking up a PS3, but the best reason I can come up with is buying now so I can get guaranteed backwards compatibility. That, is a pretty weak reason.

These games all look excellent:

Ratchet and Clank
Heavenly Sword
Folklore
Eye of Judgment
Uncharted
Resistance: Fall of Man
Haze
Warhawk

<edit> For me a system must have 3 excellent exclusives before I'll invest my money. Ratchet and Clank, Eye of Judgment, and Folklore have "green-lighted" the PS3 in my opinion. Just waiting on the $399 version to hit stores.
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2007, 10:30:04 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 31, 2007, 08:37:47 PM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on October 31, 2007, 08:29:43 PM

Quote from: StitchJones on October 31, 2007, 08:25:02 PM

GTA IV WILL sell systems, and it's looking more and more like it will be 360's.

Why?

Lower price of entry + Larger library of games means that if people are going to buy a system for GTA it's more likely to be 360.  I'm even discounting DLC because I think most people who are just getting around to buy a next gen system for GTA probably don't know much about what DLC even means. 

Joe-mainstream-gamer purchased GTA on the Playstation 2 when it first came out and probably purchases Madden every year for the system.  I don't see them switching allegiances when GTA IV hits.
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2007, 11:05:09 PM »

Quote from: TheMissingLink on October 31, 2007, 10:30:04 PM

Joe-mainstream-gamer purchased GTA on the Playstation 2 when it first came out and probably purchases Madden every year for the system.  I don't see them switching allegiances when GTA IV hits.
Madden 360 was the best selling version this year.  Alot of them have already switched.  Or will this holliday season.
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2007, 11:19:09 PM »

It's the best Blue-ray player...

All my friend who purchased PS3 are using mostly as DVD/Blue-ray player and they are hard-core gamers.
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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2007, 11:23:16 PM »

Quote from: denoginizer on October 31, 2007, 11:05:09 PM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on October 31, 2007, 10:30:04 PM

Joe-mainstream-gamer purchased GTA on the Playstation 2 when it first came out and probably purchases Madden every year for the system.  I don't see them switching allegiances when GTA IV hits.
Madden 360 was the best selling version this year.  Alot of them have already switched.  Or will this holliday season.

Son of a BITCH!

Well...if more consumers OWN the Xbox 360...maybe it will push more PS3 units...?
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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2007, 11:33:25 PM »

Quote from: biggercup on October 31, 2007, 11:19:09 PM

It's the best Blue-ray player...

All my friend who purchased PS3 are using mostly as DVD/Blue-ray player and they are hard-core gamers.


I've noticed this is said allot, like whenever talk comes up for reasons to justify a PS3. Pretty much its said every time one of these threads comes up.

Not saying it isn't true but when that feature is one of the few good tings you can say about the system its pretty easy to see why its doing to badly.

Hint: In case people don't get at what I'm saying...its about the games.
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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2007, 11:42:12 PM »

Quote from: Jumangi on October 31, 2007, 11:33:25 PM

Quote from: biggercup on October 31, 2007, 11:19:09 PM

It's the best Blue-ray player...

All my friend who purchased PS3 are using mostly as DVD/Blue-ray player and they are hard-core gamers.


I've noticed this is said allot, like whenever talk comes up for reasons to justify a PS3. Pretty much its said every time one of these threads comes up.

Not saying it isn't true but when that feature is one of the few good tings you can say about the system its pretty easy to see why its doing to badly.

Hint: In case people don't get at what I'm saying...its about the games.

That is its primary function for me-and it does it exceedingly well. As a game player, it currently fails rather spectacularly, although I will finally get Ratchet and Clank on Friday since Gamefly is done screwing me, so for 10-12 brief hours, the PS3 will be a superb game player smile
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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2007, 11:51:31 PM »

Quote from: TheMissingLink on October 31, 2007, 11:23:16 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on October 31, 2007, 11:05:09 PM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on October 31, 2007, 10:30:04 PM

Joe-mainstream-gamer purchased GTA on the Playstation 2 when it first came out and probably purchases Madden every year for the system.  I don't see them switching allegiances when GTA IV hits.
Madden 360 was the best selling version this year.  Alot of them have already switched.  Or will this holliday season.

Son of a BITCH!

Well...if more consumers OWN the Xbox 360...maybe it will push more PS3 units...?

Um... what?

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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2007, 11:54:00 PM »

Quote from: Jumangi on October 31, 2007, 11:33:25 PM

Quote from: biggercup on October 31, 2007, 11:19:09 PM

It's the best Blue-ray player...

All my friend who purchased PS3 are using mostly as DVD/Blue-ray player and they are hard-core gamers.


I've noticed this is said allot, like whenever talk comes up for reasons to justify a PS3. Pretty much its said every time one of these threads comes up.

Not saying it isn't true but when that feature is one of the few good tings you can say about the system its pretty easy to see why its doing to badly.

Hint: In case people don't get at what I'm saying...its about the games.

Then how do you explain the Wii's success? smile
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« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2007, 12:01:25 AM »

I will eventually get a PS3 when a must own game comes out but for now this just lets me know I dont have to save any money for a PS3 till next year at the earliest. I cant believe all their killer games are still no where near release, I would like to play some of the PS3 games but nothing on the system or coming out this year is enough to make me own it, although I wish I knew someone who had a PS3 and ratchet and clank just to be able to try it out
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« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2007, 12:05:52 AM »

Quote from: Canuck on October 31, 2007, 11:54:00 PM

Quote from: Jumangi on October 31, 2007, 11:33:25 PM

Quote from: biggercup on October 31, 2007, 11:19:09 PM

It's the best Blue-ray player...

All my friend who purchased PS3 are using mostly as DVD/Blue-ray player and they are hard-core gamers.


I've noticed this is said allot, like whenever talk comes up for reasons to justify a PS3. Pretty much its said every time one of these threads comes up.

Not saying it isn't true but when that feature is one of the few good tings you can say about the system its pretty easy to see why its doing to badly.

Hint: In case people don't get at what I'm saying...its about the games.

Then how do you explain the Wii's success? smile


the Wii somehow caught on with the average non gamer and became a phenom so it cant really be compared to any other console. I still have no idea why it keeps selling so well after its release with very little new to play on it. I am debating on whether to keep or sell my Wii since I dont use it much anymore since its more of a social system and I tend to use my friends Wii when we play since he has a 65" TV and I am stuck with my tiny 50" TV  icon_frown but I want to see how the olympics game and mario galaxy are
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« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2007, 01:07:40 AM »

Quote from: gellar on October 31, 2007, 11:51:31 PM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on October 31, 2007, 11:23:16 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on October 31, 2007, 11:05:09 PM

Quote from: TheMissingLink on October 31, 2007, 10:30:04 PM

Joe-mainstream-gamer purchased GTA on the Playstation 2 when it first came out and probably purchases Madden every year for the system.  I don't see them switching allegiances when GTA IV hits.
Madden 360 was the best selling version this year.  Alot of them have already switched.  Or will this holliday season.

Son of a BITCH!

Well...if more consumers OWN the Xbox 360...maybe it will push more PS3 units...?

Um... what?

gellar

I thin what's he's trying to say is that if everyone has a 360 already then only the PS3 will be selling and it will look like it's number 1, or something like that.
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« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2007, 01:13:01 AM »

[ps3]typical... ps3 game delayed, & forum members gather once again to jump up'n'down on sony...
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« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2007, 01:37:13 AM »

What's funny to me is I saw that it was delayed to spring and thought "Isn't that when they said they would release it anyway?"

I don't know why, I always had it pegged for an april-may release.

I have a PS3 and a Wii and anticipate having more games than I can play over the next 6 months. I'm also in the "gotta have 3-5 good titles" camp, and it hit that point a long time ago, that's why I bought it.

I'm really most excited about uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, and UT3. I think those 3 will move a good number of systems.
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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2007, 05:53:17 AM »

Quote from: semiconscious on November 01, 2007, 01:13:01 AM

[ps3]typical... ps3 game delayed, & forum members gather once again to jump up'n'down on sony...

normally i would agree....but this is just starting to look a little pathetic for SONY...people who invested in the machine,deserve more...okay,so MGS is delayed to make it 'better' for the customer(aren't all delays for that?)but that doesnt stop others jumping on there..this may even green light other companies to admit defeat and do the same...good in the long run,because we want a game that works.....but right now...euugh
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« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2007, 06:27:00 AM »

Ratchet and Clank, Eye of Judgment, Uncharted, Haze, and I think there's 1 more exclusive that I'm forgetting, but maybe not.

Then there's all the multiplatform games, all the major ones are getting a PS3 release including the big ones like Guitar Hero 3 and Rock Band.  The PS3 is finally getting a solid library this holiday season, and it's about as many games as the 360 had a year ago.

I don't think that's pathetic at all.  Sure, a game is delayed and that's bad for the PS3, but good for us gamers as it means more polish for the game.

But saying Sony is dead because one game gets delayed, but is still exclusive.

Actually, I think one of the big reasons why MGS4 has been delayed is Home and Firmware 2.0 integration.  I recall Home is still getting a lot of work and won't be ready until April '08.  That's close to Q2 2008, the with MGS supposed to be one of the big name exclusives to the PS3, utilizing all the new fancy features, it'd be a bad idea to release the game without full home integration, especially so for what we hope is a more stable and unified multiplayer matching system for MGS online.
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« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2007, 07:16:04 AM »

I know it may seem that I am jumping on Sony, and maybe I am a bit, but only really because in the end I want them to be successful.  I just don't see a boatload of jrpg's being released on the 360 and that is one of my favorite genre of games.  I want to see a next gen secret of mana game, final fantasy tactics, kingdom hearts, xenosaga, star ocean, dragon quest and  Suikoden.  But I don't think it will happen if Sony does not get their act together, or they will be put on a Wii and I won't get the truly next gen experience I wanted out of those titles.
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« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2007, 02:30:01 PM »

Quote from: Turtle on November 01, 2007, 06:27:00 AM

Ratchet and Clank, Eye of Judgment, Uncharted, Haze, and I think there's 1 more exclusive that I'm forgetting, but maybe not.

Then there's all the multiplatform games, all the major ones are getting a PS3 release including the big ones like Guitar Hero 3 and Rock Band.  The PS3 is finally getting a solid library this holiday season, and it's about as many games as the 360 had a year ago.

Not even close. The 360 had a library of good to great games building up in its first spring of release with titles like GRAW and Oblivion. Its taken the PS3 a full year to get something worth buying like Ratchet & Clank.

Ohh and if your trying to tout something like Eye of Judgment as some must have game that screams "This is why you need a PS3" then all I can say is I know why the sales have been so poor for the system...
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« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2007, 04:38:09 PM »

My frustration with Sony has to do with the fact that my Playstation and Playstation 2 were my favorite consoles.  It pisses me off to see how they've squandered so much goodwill.  I don't want them to fail.  It's just the opposite: I want them to succeed but really don't see any way for them to dig themselves out of the hole they are in and that pisses me off because it didn't have to be like this.  Blu-Ray's great for movie buffs but I wanted a focus on next-generation gaming and not the increased price that a BD drive added.
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