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« on: July 29, 2014, 05:30:41 PM »

EA is rolling out a access plan for the XB1 for it's entire catalog for 4.99/mo or 29.99/yr  


My hunch is the XB1 is the test case before it rolls out the PS4 just my guess

If successful this is game changer , imo

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2014, 05:41:59 PM »

Quote from: Soulchilde on July 29, 2014, 05:30:41 PM

EA is rolling out a access plan for the XB1 for it's entire catalog for 4.99/mo or 29.99/yr  


My hunch is the XB1 is the test case before it rolls out the PS4 just my guess

If successful this is game changer , imo

From that article, it doesn't look like it's their entire catalog, it's "The Vault, a collection of EAs biggest games on Xbox One".  Newer titles, you get a 10% discount.

So unless I'm reading it wrong, for $5/month or $30/year you can play the old EA games that should already be Games with Gold freebies.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2014, 05:42:51 PM »

I know a lot of people will shit on this idea, but I think it's a great thing.  There are plenty of titles (and a lot of them happen to be EA titles) that I only want to play for a short while.

the real kicker will be how limiting are they.  If they only offer gimped versions of new games and older games, it will be a fail for me.  Only way I'd get value from this is if I could play new games or fairly new games on it.

The wording of the release though seems to imply that many games will be a crippled trial to get you to buy the game, in which case this is really just them gating demos behind a paywall.  
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 05:47:47 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on July 29, 2014, 05:41:59 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on July 29, 2014, 05:30:41 PM

EA is rolling out a access plan for the XB1 for it's entire catalog for 4.99/mo or 29.99/yr  


My hunch is the XB1 is the test case before it rolls out the PS4 just my guess

If successful this is game changer , imo

From that article, it doesn't look like it's their entire catalog, it's "The Vault, a collection of EAs biggest games on Xbox One".  Newer titles, you get a 10% discount.

So unless I'm reading it wrong, for $5/month or $30/year you can play the old EA games that should already be Games with Gold freebies.

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Electronic Arts has announced a new subscription service that gives Xbox One owners access to some of its biggest games for a small monthly fee. Called EA Access, the service is launching to select users in beta today, with a starting price of $4.99 per month or $29.99 per year. The company says EA Access will "launch for everyone on Xbox One soon." Paying for the subscription will get you access to what EA calls its Vault, a collection of games you'll have unlimited access to as long as you're subscribed. During the beta, that will include a sampling of four titles FIFA 14, Madden NFL 25, Peggle 2, and Battlefield 4 though the company says more games will be added "soon."


Reading this it seems like 4 games are being rolled out now with more later.  Also you'll get early access to Dragon Age: Inquisition and Madden 15 with save games transferring if you buy the game.  If this is just for paid demos then it's a fail
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 05:56:34 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on July 29, 2014, 05:41:59 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on July 29, 2014, 05:30:41 PM

EA is rolling out a access plan for the XB1 for it's entire catalog for 4.99/mo or 29.99/yr  


My hunch is the XB1 is the test case before it rolls out the PS4 just my guess

If successful this is game changer , imo

From that article, it doesn't look like it's their entire catalog, it's "The Vault, a collection of EAs biggest games on Xbox One".  Newer titles, you get a 10% discount.

So unless I'm reading it wrong, for $5/month or $30/year you can play the old EA games that should already be Games with Gold freebies.

Oh man, I didn't even consider this until your post, but you seem to have hit the nail on the head. This could very well be (I would say it's very likely to be) their attempt to barge into the PS+ / Games for Gold market to take a larger share for themselves, just like they did with Steam and Origin, and just like they did with the server situation on the Xbox 360.

If true, we can probably wave goodbye to any EA games, new or old, in PS+ or Games for Gold. EA will have fucked up a good thing for gamers once again.

This is the EA we know and "love".
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 06:04:03 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on July 29, 2014, 05:56:34 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on July 29, 2014, 05:41:59 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on July 29, 2014, 05:30:41 PM

EA is rolling out a access plan for the XB1 for it's entire catalog for 4.99/mo or 29.99/yr  


My hunch is the XB1 is the test case before it rolls out the PS4 just my guess

If successful this is game changer , imo

From that article, it doesn't look like it's their entire catalog, it's "The Vault, a collection of EAs biggest games on Xbox One".  Newer titles, you get a 10% discount.

So unless I'm reading it wrong, for $5/month or $30/year you can play the old EA games that should already be Games with Gold freebies.

Oh man, I didn't even consider this until your post, but you seem to have hit the nail on the head. This could very well be (I would say it's very likely to be) their attempt to barge into the PS+ / Games for Gold market to take a larger share for themselves, just like they did with Steam and Origin, and just like they did with the server situation on the Xbox 360.

If true, we can probably wave goodbye to any EA games, new or old, in PS+ or Games for Gold. EA will have fucked up a good thing for gamers once again.

This is the EA we know and "love".

Yeah, that's how I read it.  If EA thinks Steam sales "cheapen intellectual property", imagine how much EA must hate Games with Gold and PS+ freebies. 
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2014, 06:07:51 PM »

As the gaming media digs in little warts are starting to pop up.  

Quote from: Joystiq
Keep in mind, there are caveats to this promotion. EA describes that early access as a "a limited trial," and not access to the full game. Further, according to the fine print, Titanfall is "excluded from all EA Access features,


While there is some value I just don't like the idea for subscribing to a glorified demo with just extra content.  If it was the full game sans DLC this would be a win in my book

More research.. Looks like games added to the vault (older titles) will be never be removed and will be the full game.  Newer titles are demos where you saved game will transfer over if you buy the retail version

Intrigued again
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2014, 06:09:18 PM »

Quote from: Soulchilde on July 29, 2014, 06:07:51 PM

As the gaming media digs in little warts are starting to pop up.  

Quote from: Joystiq
Keep in mind, there are caveats to this promotion. EA describes that early access as a "a limited trial," and not access to the full game. Further, according to the fine print, Titanfall is "excluded from all EA Access features,


While there is some value I just don't like the idea for subscribing to a glorified demo with just extra content.  If it was the full game sans DLC this would be a win in my book

If it was full games then awesome, but timed trials is worthless imo.
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2014, 06:16:46 PM »

Yeah, just seems like an extension of the EA Sports season ticket program.  It's all about monetizing things that people were getting for free.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2014, 11:13:58 PM »

It seems a lot like PS+, but with only EA games.  You get full games (Madden 25, FIFA 14, Peggle 2, and Battlefield 4 to start), trials, and discounts.  If you like the games in question and they add games regularly, this doesn't seem like a bad deal.  The fact that PS+ is only $20 more kind of hurts the deal, though.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2014, 11:19:19 PM »

Quote from: EddieA on July 29, 2014, 11:13:58 PM

It seems a lot like PS+, but with only EA games.  You get full games (Madden 25, FIFA 14, Peggle 2, and Battlefield 4 to start), trials, and discounts.  If you like the games in question and they add games regularly, this doesn't seem like a bad deal.  The fact that PS+ is only $20 more kind of hurts the deal, though.

It might seem like a good deal for gamers until you realize that this means EA will stop providing their games (if they ever provided them. I don't recall) for PS+ and Games for Gold. They will want to push people into subscribing to their service instead, so that instead of taking a percentage of revenue, they get it all. They don't care if they fuck over Microsoft and Sony in the process. EA's world contains only EA, they don't care about the rest.

If you think that's bad, imagine what happens if EA succeeds and the other publishers notice. We're suddenly left with half a dozen different subscription services to get what we used to get with one or two (depending on whether or not you have one or both of the PS4 and Xbox One). If we're lucky.

Assuming these speculations are correct, EA just screwed us gamers over for the sake of their own bottom line. Business as usual.
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Quote from: TiLT on July 29, 2014, 11:19:19 PM



It might seem like a good deal for gamers until you realize that this means EA will stop providing their games (if they ever provided them. I don't recall) for PS+ and Games for Gold. They will want to push people into subscribing to their service instead, so that instead of taking a percentage of revenue, they get it all. They don't care if they fuck over Microsoft and Sony in the process. EA's world contains only EA, they don't care about the rest.

I know its all hip to hate on EA these days be so what? What does EA owe Sony and PS+? Its their content. If they can monetize it good for them.
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Quote from: TiLT on July 29, 2014, 11:19:19 PM



It might seem like a good deal for gamers until you realize that this means EA will stop providing their games (if they ever provided them. I don't recall) for PS+ and Games for Gold. They will want to push people into subscribing to their service instead, so that instead of taking a percentage of revenue, they get it all. They don't care if they fuck over Microsoft and Sony in the process. EA's world contains only EA, they don't care about the rest.

I know its all hip to hate on EA these days be so what? What does EA owe Sony and PS+? Its their content. If they can monetize it good for them.

Good for them? I don't get it. You're applauding their possible increased profits at the expense of gamers? Yay for corporations when they figure out how to get us to pay more money for the same things?
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Quote from: TiLT on July 29, 2014, 11:19:19 PM



It might seem like a good deal for gamers until you realize that this means EA will stop providing their games (if they ever provided them. I don't recall) for PS+ and Games for Gold. They will want to push people into subscribing to their service instead, so that instead of taking a percentage of revenue, they get it all. They don't care if they fuck over Microsoft and Sony in the process. EA's world contains only EA, they don't care about the rest.

I know its all hip to hate on EA these days be so what? What does EA owe Sony and PS+? Its their content. If they can monetize it good for them.

Tilt rightly fears the other major publisher going this route especially if EA turns a profit.  This seems like a dagger directed towards used games, imo.

If you're part of the XB1 Preview Program you should receive a beta invite.   I got mines this evening and I'm probably going to use this program to gauge its viability for me
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Good for them? I don't get it. You're applauding their possible increased profits at the expense of gamers? Yay for corporations when they figure out how to get us to pay more money for the same things?

It's a free market. Either they will make money, in which there was a demand for the service and their decision was justified, or they won't.

And while everybody is fighting this battle tooth and nail, in the end gamers WILL lose the fight over physical media. Physical media will be extinct by next-gen, and the concept of used games will be as antiquated as VHS rentals.
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Good for them? I don't get it. You're applauding their possible increased profits at the expense of gamers? Yay for corporations when they figure out how to get us to pay more money for the same things?

It's a free market. Either they will make money, in which there was a demand for the service and their decision was justified, or they won't.

That's how it plays out, yes, but consumers are also allowed to have reactions, positive or negative. What's the point of a discussion board if every opinion gets neutered to "one of the possible outcomes will be the outcome"?
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