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« Reply #2640 on: August 21, 2014, 06:28:20 PM »

I've probably only played a bit over an hour of this when taking out time for outside distractions, but I feel like I'm the only one not seeing the magic.  It didn't seem to change anything about Diablo III to me beyond making the UI harder to use.  I think I was expecting too much based on everybody's glowing praise.

And to me the combat just felt boring.  Hold down X, occasionally hit R2 and pop square when it's available.  I moved difficulty up from Normal to Hard and that made it even more boring as my Crusader now just had to keep hitting each enemy multiple times.  I was literally falling asleep fighting enemies at the end it was so unexciting. 

Hopefully it gets better soon, otherwise I'm going to regret buying Diablo 3 for the second time.
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« Reply #2641 on: August 21, 2014, 06:57:38 PM »

Oh, well if you didn't like Diablo 3 the first time, you'll likely not like it.  I mean, they changed things that improved things for people who enjoy Diablo, but if you don't like hack n slash games with phat lewt, you're not going to like the game no matter what system it's on.
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« Reply #2642 on: August 21, 2014, 07:06:01 PM »

Well, I know I used to like hack and slash games with fat loot a lot, and in general would say I still do.  Hell, I was just playing Marvel Heroes 2015 last weekend and enjoying it, and that's basically online Diablo with superheroes.

I didn't like Diablo 3 on launch for many reasons (auction house, bad loot because of balance for AH, always online/server issues, etc etc).  Hearing everybody say this was the definitive version that fixes everything and adds magical action combat made me want to try it again.

We'll see, maybe once I get past the content I know I will have a different opinion.  Or maybe I need to change classes.  I chose the Crusader since everybody said they loved it so much, but it's not super interesting to me yet.
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« Reply #2643 on: August 21, 2014, 07:37:13 PM »

Level 41 and the middle of Act 3 now, steadily working my way towards the new content. I replayed everything up to this point with my PC monk recently before Reaper of Souls came out, in order to bring him to 60. As a result, everything I've played in the PS4 version so far has been very familiar. The rest of it, however, has been so far since I've seen that it'll feel much fresher. Can't wait for Act 5 and adventure mode, not to mention the higher difficulty levels. smile
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« Reply #2644 on: August 21, 2014, 07:42:29 PM »

I think I might actually roll a hardcore character with this version.  icon_eek
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« Reply #2645 on: August 21, 2014, 11:24:00 PM »

Quote from: Torfish on August 21, 2014, 01:24:49 PM

Created a witch doctor last night and immediately got a notification that I had something in my mailbox.  It was a level 11 sweet legendary item from someone in my friend's list.  Pretty cool.   

It was ME!!!  But I wish I could take more credit for it, it seemed like it just auto-sent you something while I was playing.  I don't know how it makes the decision, but at least it answers the question for me as to how am I supposed to know what my friends can use.

I also got my first Nemesis last night from Triggyrcut, barely survived that.

And oh yeah, playing on Vita is pretty damn sweet.  Only thing I don't like is the L2/R2 buttons (or lack thereof), but I think I can work around that somehow.
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« Reply #2646 on: August 21, 2014, 11:32:12 PM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 21, 2014, 07:06:01 PM

Well, I know I used to like hack and slash games with fat loot a lot, and in general would say I still do.  Hell, I was just playing Marvel Heroes 2015 last weekend and enjoying it, and that's basically online Diablo with superheroes.

I didn't like Diablo 3 on launch for many reasons (auction house, bad loot because of balance for AH, always online/server issues, etc etc).  Hearing everybody say this was the definitive version that fixes everything and adds magical action combat made me want to try it again.

We'll see, maybe once I get past the content I know I will have a different opinion.  Or maybe I need to change classes.  I chose the Crusader since everybody said they loved it so much, but it's not super interesting to me yet.

Keep in mind that the game is designed so that the more you play, the more options open up for you in all senses.  The game at level 70 and Paragon level 50 is a completely different animal than it is in the early stages.  There are different modes of play, you have access to all active and passive skills plus refinement bonuses from Paragon levels, probably all legendary or set equipment, etc etc. and the battles will ramp up in difficulty with tons of mobs with special abilities that will drive you nuts. 

I'm thinking once you get your first few rares and legendaries, plus level high enough that you have more skill slots open and multiple choices for skills and runes on each, it should become much more interesting.  That's probably just a few hours of play.  If it still seems dull then maybe it's just not the class or game for you.  Maybe try a wizard or shaman as they play fairly differently from Crusader in that case.  Also don't forget to take advantage of the crafting guy in the early going.  He can fill a key weak spot in your gear with some nice rares.
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« Reply #2647 on: August 21, 2014, 11:32:50 PM »

Rittchard, how did that work?  Did a legendary drop for you in-game and a duplicate was auto-sent to me?  Did the game notify you that it was sent?  Anyway, thanks!
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« Reply #2648 on: August 21, 2014, 11:34:13 PM »

Quote from: Torfish on August 21, 2014, 11:32:50 PM

Rittchard, how did that work?  Did a legendary drop for you in-game and a duplicate was auto-sent to me?  Did the game notify you that it was sent?  Anyway, thanks!

It happened really fast, I just saw a note that a gift was sent to Torfish.  I don't know if it was a duplicate or not, but I was playing a Witch Doctor as well so maybe....
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« Reply #2649 on: August 22, 2014, 01:42:47 AM »

Quote from: rittchard on August 21, 2014, 11:34:13 PM

Quote from: Torfish on August 21, 2014, 11:32:50 PM

Rittchard, how did that work?  Did a legendary drop for you in-game and a duplicate was auto-sent to me?  Did the game notify you that it was sent?  Anyway, thanks!

It happened really fast, I just saw a note that a gift was sent to Torfish.  I don't know if it was a duplicate or not, but I was playing a Witch Doctor as well so maybe....

I think if there's a legendary drop in your game, there's a small % chance of another random legendary sent to someone from friends list.
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« Reply #2650 on: August 22, 2014, 04:30:30 AM »

Quote from: rittchard on August 21, 2014, 11:34:13 PM

Quote from: Torfish on August 21, 2014, 11:32:50 PM

Rittchard, how did that work?  Did a legendary drop for you in-game and a duplicate was auto-sent to me?  Did the game notify you that it was sent?  Anyway, thanks!

It happened really fast, I just saw a note that a gift was sent to Torfish.  I don't know if it was a duplicate or not, but I was playing a Witch Doctor as well so maybe....

If this is what happened, you never sent that legendary. The game doesn't auto-send them. When you find a gift legendary, the game auto-assigns it to someone on your friends list that you have no control over, but you have to manually send the item by going to your inventory and clicking it.
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« Reply #2651 on: August 22, 2014, 06:40:24 AM »

I've spent over 100 hrs on Mac w this. Then maybe 60 or so on 360. Now on ps4 in two nights I've put in another 6 or 7... Why do I like this game so much?!?
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« Reply #2652 on: August 22, 2014, 07:40:12 AM »

Quote from: Torfish on August 21, 2014, 01:24:49 PM

Created a witch doctor last night and immediately got a notification that I had something in my mailbox.  It was a level 11 sweet legendary item from someone in my friend's list.  Pretty cool.   

Actually, I think it was me.

I sent you a gift the other night - I got the gift drop, had to go into my inventory, select it, and say to ship it to you. Had no idea what it was - but glad you enjoyed it.
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« Reply #2653 on: August 22, 2014, 12:38:58 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on August 22, 2014, 04:30:30 AM

Quote from: rittchard on August 21, 2014, 11:34:13 PM

Quote from: Torfish on August 21, 2014, 11:32:50 PM

Rittchard, how did that work?  Did a legendary drop for you in-game and a duplicate was auto-sent to me?  Did the game notify you that it was sent?  Anyway, thanks!

It happened really fast, I just saw a note that a gift was sent to Torfish.  I don't know if it was a duplicate or not, but I was playing a Witch Doctor as well so maybe....

If this is what happened, you never sent that legendary. The game doesn't auto-send them. When you find a gift legendary, the game auto-assigns it to someone on your friends list that you have no control over, but you have to manually send the item by going to your inventory and clicking it.

You don't actually have to go into inventory.  You can use the d-pad up thing to cycle to it and you can hit send from there.
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« Reply #2654 on: August 22, 2014, 12:46:54 PM »

I need to add some of you guys to my friends list. I have exactly one friend on PS4 which is Hetz. I feel like the last kid picked for the kickball team.  icon_frown
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« Reply #2655 on: August 22, 2014, 01:46:54 PM »

You can add me if you want. I'm not super reliable when it comes to being able to join online games with any regularity with two young kids at home but you'll see me on from time to time in the evenings hack'n and slash'n. I'm HyphenNation on PSN.
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« Reply #2656 on: August 22, 2014, 01:51:34 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on August 22, 2014, 04:30:30 AM

Quote from: rittchard on August 21, 2014, 11:34:13 PM

Quote from: Torfish on August 21, 2014, 11:32:50 PM

Rittchard, how did that work?  Did a legendary drop for you in-game and a duplicate was auto-sent to me?  Did the game notify you that it was sent?  Anyway, thanks!

It happened really fast, I just saw a note that a gift was sent to Torfish.  I don't know if it was a duplicate or not, but I was playing a Witch Doctor as well so maybe....

If this is what happened, you never sent that legendary. The game doesn't auto-send them. When you find a gift legendary, the game auto-assigns it to someone on your friends list that you have no control over, but you have to manually send the item by going to your inventory and clicking it.

This..  I just sent a gift to someone on my friends list last night
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« Reply #2657 on: August 22, 2014, 02:00:33 PM »

Quote from: YellowKing on August 22, 2014, 12:46:54 PM

I need to add some of you guys to my friends list. I have exactly one friend on PS4 which is Hetz. I feel like the last kid picked for the kickball team.  icon_frown

YK, check that thread in the mp forum.  lots of names in there. 
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« Reply #2658 on: August 22, 2014, 02:12:21 PM »

I wish I had played with higher difficulty before.  I just got to Act 5 and I'm at level 48.  XP and gold bonus are amazing.
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« Reply #2659 on: August 22, 2014, 02:24:29 PM »

Quote from: leo8877 on August 22, 2014, 02:12:21 PM

I wish I had played with higher difficulty before.  I just got to Act 5 and I'm at level 48.  XP and gold bonus are amazing.
I know.  My crusader is level 33 at the start of Act 2 playing expert.  I started on Hard, which worked for awhile.  But once I started socketing gems it became easy.  I switched to expert towards the end of Act 1 which really ratcheted up experience gain.
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« Reply #2660 on: August 22, 2014, 03:02:21 PM »

I started on Expert and just hit 15. Haven't even fought the Skeleton King yet!
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« Reply #2661 on: August 22, 2014, 03:03:35 PM »

Quote from: YellowKing on August 22, 2014, 12:46:54 PM

I need to add some of you guys to my friends list. I have exactly one friend on PS4 which is Hetz. I feel like the last kid picked for the kickball team.  icon_frown

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« Reply #2662 on: August 22, 2014, 03:49:28 PM »

Add me as well Harpua33. Late nights mostly.
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« Reply #2663 on: August 22, 2014, 03:57:23 PM »

Quote from: YellowKing on August 22, 2014, 12:46:54 PM

I need to add some of you guys to my friends list. I have exactly one friend on PS4 which is Hetz. I feel like the last kid picked for the kickball team.  icon_frown

Here is the thread with the link to the Ultimate Friends List document.  I'm definitely down for more friends on my list for the Nemesis attacks and such, but I don't tend to play much multiplayer. 

On another note, I started a Monk last night and am enjoying that much more than the Crusader for some reason.  Maybe I was just tired the night before, or maybe the speedier attacks felt better, who knows.
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« Reply #2664 on: August 22, 2014, 05:03:22 PM »

OK so I finally saw that legendary gift sitting in my inventory but I didn't know how to send it lol.  Does anyone know if it's scaled to when the receiving player opens it, or when it was generated by the giver? 

Also wondering in an online MP game, what happens if there are 3 or 4 players but 1 of them opens their pause menu - does the whole game pause for everyone or are the remaining players still able to play? 
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« Reply #2665 on: August 22, 2014, 05:03:50 PM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 22, 2014, 03:57:23 PM

On another note, I started a Monk last night and am enjoying that much more than the Crusader for some reason.  Maybe I was just tired the night before, or maybe the speedier attacks felt better, who knows.
I played a monk through the old nightmare and hell difficulties, and I agree, the playstyle feels fast.  It's a fun class.  And I wasn't paying attention to optimal build guides or anything like that.  I just went with whatever skills and runes were the most fun for me (at that moment).  

The crusader has a different pace, but I'm imagining him as kind of a Warhammer 40k SM chaplain type, wearing stupidly heavy armor, wielding giant maces, and dispensing the fury of the Emperor...I mean Zakarum.  
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« Reply #2666 on: August 22, 2014, 05:14:02 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on August 22, 2014, 05:03:22 PM

OK so I finally saw that legendary gift sitting in my inventory but I didn't know how to send it lol.  Does anyone know if it's scaled to when the receiving player opens it, or when it was generated by the giver? 

Also wondering in an online MP game, what happens if there are 3 or 4 players but 1 of them opens their pause menu - does the whole game pause for everyone or are the remaining players still able to play? 
I just learned that too.  A couple of nights ago I was surprised to see a gift wrapped present drop on the ground as loot.  Above the present it said "Rittchard".  Things were happening so fast that I didn't have time to stop and see what happened to it.  I later found it in my gift bag in my inventory.  Hopefully you got it. 
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« Reply #2667 on: August 22, 2014, 06:05:56 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on August 22, 2014, 05:03:22 PM

OK so I finally saw that legendary gift sitting in my inventory but I didn't know how to send it lol.  Does anyone know if it's scaled to when the receiving player opens it, or when it was generated by the giver?  

Also wondering in an online MP game, what happens if there are 3 or 4 players but 1 of them opens their pause menu - does the whole game pause for everyone or are the remaining players still able to play?  

I know that when I got my first gift from TiLT it was a level 11 item and I wasn't high enough to use it yet, so I don't think it scales to the person receiving it.  Although, I wonder what would happen if someone way lower level than you generated it...seems a waste to send a level 10 item to a level 50, for instance.  Maybe it always keeps it around your level or a little higher.
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« Reply #2668 on: August 22, 2014, 06:14:29 PM »

I've had so many legendary items drop that even if a gift doesn't work for you, I think you'll get something good soon regardless.
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« Reply #2669 on: August 22, 2014, 06:29:47 PM »

From what I've heard, legendaries you receive as gifts scale to your level as soon as you open your mailbox, but not before. In theory, you could wait until you're level 70 before opening your mailbox in order to maximize your benefits from them. The reason The Grue got a legendary of a higher level than he was (I've sent you another one, I think), was probably because he was such a low level to begin with. Legendaries with a level requirement of less than 10 or so would probably just be a waste of time since you'll level past them in minutes.
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« Reply #2670 on: August 22, 2014, 06:59:33 PM »

Cool moment today.  About a couple minutes after I started playing (field of misery) with my level 17 witch doctor, my controller started vibrating every 20 seconds or so.  I wasn't sure what it was.  I think some faint music or background noise started up too.  Then about a minute or two later, Diablo or some kind of act 4 mob glowing in red came after me!  I was like, what the hell is this!  I died almost instantly.  About a 10 second fight, I didn't have time to read the mob's name.  When I died, he exited a red portal.  Beware everyone!  The sucker is strong.
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« Reply #2671 on: August 22, 2014, 07:12:56 PM »

Quote from: Torfish on August 22, 2014, 06:59:33 PM

Cool moment today.  About a couple minutes after I started playing (field of misery) with my level 17 witch doctor, my controller started vibrating every 20 seconds or so.  I wasn't sure what it was.  I think some faint music or background noise started up too.  Then about a minute or two later, Diablo or some kind of act 4 mob glowing in red came after me!  I was like, what the hell is this!  I died almost instantly.  About a 10 second fight, I didn't have time to read the mob's name.  When I died, he exited a red portal.  Beware everyone!  The sucker is strong.

That was a Nemesis that had killed one of your friends. It should list who it has killed, and I believe it brings some of the ghosts of its victims along with it. Now it has moved on to someone else on your friends list. If they can kill it without dying to it, the two of you will both receive rewards for it. If he dies too, you're out of luck and could risk meeting that same Nemesis again, only this time it'll be even more powerful.

I met my first Nemesis today among the very first group of monsters I fought after starting the game. I had nowhere to move (I had just entered that map, after all), so it ended up killing me. Felt a bit unfair. I wish it would wait a little bit after you've started the game so that you have a chance to prepare the playing field. At least I managed to bring it down to less than half health.

I just reached Act IV btw. The acts really get smaller and smaller as you move through the game, with Act IV being the smallest. At least Act V is supposed to be the longest of the bunch, from what I've been told.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I believe you were online when I died to my Nemesis. You might have fought the same one I did after it killed me.
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« Reply #2672 on: August 22, 2014, 08:40:24 PM »

Thanks Rogue - I think I've already got 3 gifts from you lol!

As far as Act lengths, it could just be me but I always felt like Act 1 was the longest.  Act 5 blew by for me so quickly, but it could have been because of the anticipation.  You can certainly extend the length by exploring every open door and increasing the difficulty, but in terms of generic "size" I still think Act 1 is the biggest.
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« Reply #2673 on: August 22, 2014, 09:16:49 PM »

Hetz sent me a message yesterday that a Nemesis from my game destroyed him and his wife, so it still might be on the loose
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« Reply #2674 on: August 22, 2014, 10:14:07 PM »

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Thanks Rogue - I think I've already got 3 gifts from you lol!

As far as Act lengths, it could just be me but I always felt like Act 1 was the longest.  Act 5 blew by for me so quickly, but it could have been because of the anticipation.  You can certainly extend the length by exploring every open door and increasing the difficulty, but in terms of generic "size" I still think Act 1 is the biggest.

I haven't played Act V, but isn't part of this game exploring all of the dark corners of each area?  Or is that just me?
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« Reply #2675 on: August 22, 2014, 10:19:37 PM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 22, 2014, 10:14:07 PM

I haven't played Act V, but isn't part of this game exploring all of the dark corners of each area?  Or is that just me?

Not really. I'm pushing through the campaign to reach adventure mode right now. There's always a goal in the horizon. Searching every nook and cranny, unless you're going for Challenges, is typically not worth the time.

In other news, I just beat Diablo. Then, at the very beginning of Act V, another nemesis appeared out of nothing, spawning in such a way as to trap me in a corner. I still beat it. smile Got a bunch of loot for my trouble, and a gift legendary to send back to the player who was killed by the nemesis last.
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« Reply #2676 on: August 22, 2014, 10:35:57 PM »

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Quote from: rittchard on August 22, 2014, 08:40:24 PM

Thanks Rogue - I think I've already got 3 gifts from you lol!

As far as Act lengths, it could just be me but I always felt like Act 1 was the longest.  Act 5 blew by for me so quickly, but it could have been because of the anticipation.  You can certainly extend the length by exploring every open door and increasing the difficulty, but in terms of generic "size" I still think Act 1 is the biggest.

I haven't played Act V, but isn't part of this game exploring all of the dark corners of each area?  Or is that just me?

I play like that normally, I try and open up the whole map when I am playing in an area.
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« Reply #2677 on: August 22, 2014, 11:15:55 PM »

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Quote from: rittchard on August 22, 2014, 08:40:24 PM

Thanks Rogue - I think I've already got 3 gifts from you lol!

As far as Act lengths, it could just be me but I always felt like Act 1 was the longest.  Act 5 blew by for me so quickly, but it could have been because of the anticipation.  You can certainly extend the length by exploring every open door and increasing the difficulty, but in terms of generic "size" I still think Act 1 is the biggest.

I haven't played Act V, but isn't part of this game exploring all of the dark corners of each area?  Or is that just me?

I play like that normally, I try and open up the whole map when I am playing in an area.

Yeah, this seems like the way to play to me, too.
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« Reply #2678 on: August 22, 2014, 11:38:34 PM »

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Quote from: rittchard on August 22, 2014, 08:40:24 PM

Thanks Rogue - I think I've already got 3 gifts from you lol!

As far as Act lengths, it could just be me but I always felt like Act 1 was the longest.  Act 5 blew by for me so quickly, but it could have been because of the anticipation.  You can certainly extend the length by exploring every open door and increasing the difficulty, but in terms of generic "size" I still think Act 1 is the biggest.

I haven't played Act V, but isn't part of this game exploring all of the dark corners of each area?  Or is that just me?

I play like that normally, I try and open up the whole map when I am playing in an area.

Yeah, this seems like the way to play to me, too.

Bull winkle I think I had a legendary drop for you last night
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