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« on: April 19, 2015, 02:05:46 AM »

Particularly shooters....

I love the CoD and Battlefield games, but I'm just dead awful. I know it's because I don't have the time commitment as others have. And quite simply, it's borderline me quit buying and playing them.

I'm usually decent the first week. But once everyone has the maps and weapons down, I'm toast.

I loved Battlefield Hardline, but it's so frustrating at this point, I'm wasting my time. I honestly can barely stay alive for 15 seconds.

Anyone else in this camp?

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2015, 03:14:52 AM »

Oh, absolutely. Online games were for me when I was in college and had the time. Now that I have a job with travel, a commute, and plenty of other stuff going on in my life, I'm so far behind the curve that it's a waste.

I enjoy screwing around with something casual and co-op like Diablo, but I can't really deal with shooters, MOBAs, and the like, especially when the communities are so toxic to unskilled players.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2015, 03:19:37 AM »

Yep, I don't even bother anymore. Friend and I used to play Unreal Tournament when EQ was down. She would destroy me. Tried to play Gears of War with coworkers once, they had all the maps memorized and I had no clue what to do. Back in the day when we used to do hot seat strategy games like Warlords III, Perfect General, and Konquered Kingdoms, I kicked ass (but always sucked at Empire Deluxe), nowadays I would rather just play single player no matter what the game. Better for the ego.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2015, 06:12:00 AM »

Quote from: Lee on April 19, 2015, 03:19:37 AM

Yep, I don't even bother anymore. Friend and I used to play Unreal Tournament when EQ was down. She would destroy me. Tried to play Gears of War with coworkers once, they had all the maps memorized and I had no clue what to do. Back in the day when we used to do hot seat strategy games like Warlords III, Perfect General, and Konquered Kingdoms, I kicked ass (but always sucked at Empire Deluxe), nowadays I would rather just play single player no matter what the game. Better for the ego.

Same here, I just never bother with them at all.  The only one I was ever even remotely good at was the first Unreal Tournament, and was before my twitch reflexes went entirely to shit.

Absolutely zero interest in anything multiplayer, outside of a few select MMOs.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2015, 07:48:46 AM »

I remember getting Titanfall the day after release. Some of those people must have played for 24 hours straight based upon the levels of some players.

I hate online FPS. I also can't get into RPGs. Seeing usernames like ThickMiddleAppendage pull me right out of the game.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2015, 11:07:05 AM »

I suck in pretty much all games.  One thing you learn from the internet pretty quickly is no matter how good you think you are at something, someone else out there is a whole lot better.

So I just focus on playing games were I can have a good time.  Getting mowed down in a quarter of a second by an enemy I can't even see in an online Call of Duty match isn't much fun, so I don't play those.  I'm also pretty bad at DOTA 2, though, and I had a great time playing a support character who could push back the fog of war and stun enemies from a distance.  Same goes for single-player RPGs and strategy games.  My characters in Pillars of Eternity are surely sub-optimal compared to whatever exploits other people have figured out, but I'm having a much better time learning the systems for myself.

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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2015, 11:36:42 AM »

I am also in the suckage camp, in general.  But I keep playing them anyway.

I stop going to the threads about them because there are people here who are good, and it gets disheartening to see talk of impressive k/d ratios when I'm proud if I close in on 1:1 (and I count assists).  That's not a ding on the guys posting there.  Of course they should post that stuff.  It's more a symptom of the whole thing.

It's also not great in game to constantly be seeing my kills referred to as a Comeback.  Don't call it a Comeback, as the song goes.

I've been getting better, though.  For some reason, Titanfall clicked with me.  I was able to be in the top part of the score table, sometimes even first.  Then the most recent CoD saw similar scoring sometimes.  It depended on the match, of course, but I even posted a good result in the forums here.  I was encouraged and thought I might be getting it.

Fuck Hardline.

Seriously, like Xmann said, more than 15 seconds can be impressive.  There are moments where I wish you got points for still being alive.  And the post death camera tracking the guy who shot you, but after there's any visual information that could help you, goes on forever and feels like egregious insult.

One thing about Hardline that helped me to find out is that the starting weapons suck.  Seriously.  To the point that it's bad design because it entirely discourages new players.  And, if you're like me, the wealth of weapon choices is overwhelming and frustrating.  What if I blow all of my money on a weapon or piece of tech that doesn't work for me?  I'm back to square one.

Reading up online, I picked a weapon for the Robbers that is decent for me.  Here's the problem: you can also get it for the Cops, but only after you have enough kills with it as a Robber.  Given that I can't pick my team, how am I supposed to accomplish that?  Plus I still suck with this weapon, just a little less.  It's going to take forever.

Why am I still playing this again?
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2015, 02:54:41 PM »

Enjoyment of multiplayer games has a lot to do with the people you are playing with.  I would go so far as to say, if youíre not playing with friends over voice chat, youíre doing it wrong.   With a group of friends talking live, you can generally be effective enough, by working together, that it doesnít matter if you donít individually have the best skills in the world.

Beyond that, most multiplayer games have adopted class systems at this point.  That means, if you donít have the reflexes to play a front line fighter, donít, there are plenty of other ways to support your team and do well.  Choose a sniper class and hide on top of a building somewhere.  Or choose a medic, or some sort of engineer class.  Maybe you are good driver.  Regardless of your skills, I bet there is a class you could play.

Now MOBAs are the exception to this.  You MIGHT be able to play something like Heroes of the Storm, since itís pretty casual, but in general, if you donít have a thick skin, I would stay far far away from MOBAs.  The majority of them have incredibly toxic player basses that will attack you at the smallest provocation.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2015, 04:26:13 PM »

I just don't seem to invest enough time to get either good or form a good community.  I remember when Mario Kart 8 came out and some friends played on Friday night.  After a couple weeks I just had stuff going on for awhile and by the time I got back I was just out of the loop.

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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2015, 04:38:02 PM »

Quote from: farley2k on April 20, 2015, 04:26:13 PM

I just don't seem to invest enough time to get either good or form a good community. 

Same here.  I also don't really have any gaming friends IRL and am rather antisocial by nature, so the idea of getting any sort of friendly gaming group together is a non-starter.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2015, 06:24:49 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on April 20, 2015, 04:38:02 PM


Same here.  I also don't really have any gaming friends IRL and am rather antisocial by nature, so the idea of getting any sort of friendly gaming group together is a non-starter.
Some of the best IRL friends I have, I made through playing games with people I met from gaming forums.  icon_smile
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2015, 06:31:00 PM »

TiLT sucks.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2015, 07:30:07 PM »

I don't really play online games very much. The extent of my online playing at the moment is with WarThunder. I don't think I'm very good, but I'm still having a lot of fun. The game is also more strategic with the tanks, creating more of a relaxed atmosphere.
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2015, 07:51:50 PM »

Bit of a grammar issue.

I do not suck IN games, I simply suck AT them.

The title of this thread implies something entirely different (nsfw). Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2015, 07:09:58 PM »

Quote from: Purge on April 20, 2015, 07:51:50 PM

Bit of a grammar issue.

I do not suck IN games, I simply suck AT them.

The title of this thread implies something entirely different (nsfw). Tongue

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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2015, 08:22:54 PM »

I can't do hyper fast games like CoD anymore, but I'm ok still at Battlefield. The vehicles make it more than just about split second twitch skills.
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2015, 08:49:42 PM »

Quote from: Purge on April 20, 2015, 07:51:50 PM

Bit of a grammar issue.

I do not suck IN games, I simply suck AT them.

The title of this thread implies something entirely different (nsfw). Tongue

I suck both IN online games AND AT them  nod nod nod

But yeah, if anyone deserved the award for suckitude at an FPS, it would be me.  As I've mentioned before in other threads, I often can't even make it out of the tutorial in some of the games, which can be incredibly humiliating and annoying.

Of course that isn't all "online" games, obviously I'm super awesome at some online games like LoL - right Forge?!?!??!  eek icon_twisted
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2015, 10:51:08 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on April 21, 2015, 08:49:42 PM

Quote from: Purge on April 20, 2015, 07:51:50 PM

Bit of a grammar issue.

I do not suck IN games, I simply suck AT them.

The title of this thread implies something entirely different (nsfw). Tongue

I suck both IN online games AND AT them  nod nod nod

But yeah, if anyone deserved the award for suckitude at an FPS, it would be me.  As I've mentioned before in other threads, I often can't even make it out of the tutorial in some of the games, which can be incredibly humiliating and annoying.

Of course that isn't all "online" games, obviously I'm super awesome at some online games like LoL - right Forge?!?!??!  eek icon_twisted

I can say this, of our group of regulars you were not the worst ninja
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2015, 09:39:28 PM »

Quote from: forgeforsaken on April 21, 2015, 10:51:08 PM

Quote from: rittchard on April 21, 2015, 08:49:42 PM

Quote from: Purge on April 20, 2015, 07:51:50 PM

Bit of a grammar issue.

I do not suck IN games, I simply suck AT them.

The title of this thread implies something entirely different (nsfw). Tongue

I suck both IN online games AND AT them  nod nod nod

But yeah, if anyone deserved the award for suckitude at an FPS, it would be me.  As I've mentioned before in other threads, I often can't even make it out of the tutorial in some of the games, which can be incredibly humiliating and annoying.

Of course that isn't all "online" games, obviously I'm super awesome at some online games like LoL - right Forge?!?!??!  eek icon_twisted

I can say this, of our group of regulars you were not the worst ninja

I'm going to screenshot and immortalize this!  It's my greatest triumph as an online gamer and shall be carved on my gravestone:

"Here Lies Rittchard: of his online group, he was not the worst."
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2015, 09:55:07 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on April 22, 2015, 09:39:28 PM

Quote from: forgeforsaken on April 21, 2015, 10:51:08 PM

Quote from: rittchard on April 21, 2015, 08:49:42 PM

Quote from: Purge on April 20, 2015, 07:51:50 PM

Bit of a grammar issue.

I do not suck IN games, I simply suck AT them.

The title of this thread implies something entirely different (nsfw). Tongue

I suck both IN online games AND AT them  nod nod nod

But yeah, if anyone deserved the award for suckitude at an FPS, it would be me.  As I've mentioned before in other threads, I often can't even make it out of the tutorial in some of the games, which can be incredibly humiliating and annoying.

Of course that isn't all "online" games, obviously I'm super awesome at some online games like LoL - right Forge?!?!??!  eek icon_twisted

I can say this, of our group of regulars you were not the worst ninja

I'm going to screenshot and immortalize this!  It's my greatest triumph as an online gamer and shall be carved on my gravestone:

"Here Lies Rittchard: of his online group, he was not the worst."

What can I say, I'm good with compliments.  icon_wink
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2015, 02:50:45 AM »

Oh the quick twitch COD battlefield etc days are far behind me.

but still ranked on madden online.  tends to match with people close to you and lately not running into as many cheats/quits/profane yuuts (youths/mycousinvinny)
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2015, 01:30:00 PM »

Same here, which is why I mainly stick with co-op games or previously with mmorpgs that had a focus on grouping for certain types of content.

Of course the latter didn't keep me from getting grouped with horse's asses who'd yell at anyone who hadn't memorized how to do a raid. One of the reasons I retired from mmorpgs for now.  icon_smile

I turn 50 this month and I just kind of have to face facts it's difficult for me to have fun with teens and 20 somethings who seem to have 200 hours a week to play things (thus they can shoot me in the head the moment I materialize in an onlint shooter), and who want to rage about everything and anything (I'm stereotyping here; no doubt I've run into age group peers who behave the same way  icon_smile). I did have that kind of time back then but we didn't have consoles with online play when I was that age, and I don't think I played a PC game online until I was 30.
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2015, 02:15:15 PM »

yeah, I don't want to sound crotchety or old, but teens of today make online gaming a bit more difficult to enjoy.  I get horsing around and having fun being a bit goofy, but I can't stand straight up trolls who only play for the sole purpose of griefing anyone and everyone they can. 

I also like to be methodical and calculating, so these fast twitch FPS games like CoD or even Battlefield just don't really do it for me anymore.
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2015, 02:42:02 PM »

Quote from: frost on April 23, 2015, 02:15:15 PM

yeah, I don't want to sound crotchety or old, but teens of today make online gaming a bit more difficult to enjoy.  I get horsing around and having fun being a bit goofy, but I can't stand straight up trolls who only play for the sole purpose of griefing anyone and everyone they can. 

I also like to be methodical and calculating, so these fast twitch FPS games like CoD or even Battlefield just don't really do it for me anymore.

Trolls and griefing have existed since the dawn of online gaming, heck I'd argue before then in the arcades.   FPS games are actually a bit slower these days thanks to consoles than they were 15 years ago, Quake/UT (especially instagib) are faster/twitchier than CoD etc.
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2015, 10:17:26 PM »

I keep thinking one of these shooter-style games is going to mix/change it up to allow for significantly different play-styles and skillsets to inter-mingle and all contribute in different ways, but still allow everyone to enjoy the overall experience together.  It just never seems to materialize the way I imagine it.  I'm wondering if Blizzard's Overwatch might be the game to do it.
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2015, 01:00:47 PM »

Perhaps the Division, given the class system and its MMORPG status.
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« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2015, 03:52:55 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on April 23, 2015, 10:17:26 PM

I keep thinking one of these shooter-style games is going to mix/change it up to allow for significantly different play-styles and skillsets to inter-mingle and all contribute in different ways, but still allow everyone to enjoy the overall experience together.  It just never seems to materialize the way I imagine it.  I'm wondering if Blizzard's Overwatch might be the game to do it.

The Arma series always did a good job of this, I thought.  It's much more important to be tactical, calculating, and have teamwork than it is to be a twitch shooter.  It's very realistic in that sense.  If you have a team of three against one opponent, it's extremely rare (but not impossible) that the one guy can take out all three, much like real life.
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« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2015, 03:54:57 PM »

Quote from: forgeforsaken on April 23, 2015, 02:42:02 PM

Quote from: frost on April 23, 2015, 02:15:15 PM

yeah, I don't want to sound crotchety or old, but teens of today make online gaming a bit more difficult to enjoy.  I get horsing around and having fun being a bit goofy, but I can't stand straight up trolls who only play for the sole purpose of griefing anyone and everyone they can. 

I also like to be methodical and calculating, so these fast twitch FPS games like CoD or even Battlefield just don't really do it for me anymore.

Trolls and griefing have existed since the dawn of online gaming, heck I'd argue before then in the arcades.   FPS games are actually a bit slower these days thanks to consoles than they were 15 years ago, Quake/UT (especially instagib) are faster/twitchier than CoD etc.


OMG I forgot how much I hated those games.  There was no enjoyment at all to those games.  You couldn't enjoy scenery, utilize any real cover, or anything.  It was just run as fast as you can, jump around as much as possible, and get head shot every 15 seconds.
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2015, 03:58:36 AM »

I stopped playing competitive shooters about 4 CoDs ago, and that's how I mark my progression into the OMG group.  Old Man Gamer, also "Oh My God, how did he kill me when I didn't even get one fricken hit on him?".  I had fun with BF3, especially with fellow GT'ers but slowly realized that as the maps got larger, I tended to get lost in the maelstrom and just became another bucket of xp for someone better.  I had very little fun with BF4 and have a few games where I didn't so much as load up the MP. 

My last real enjoyable MP game has to have been Bad Company 2 as I actually was present when the server pops dropped so badly you could end up with less than 10 players in a map. I think we all agreed at one point to just try blowing up the jeep as high as the game would let us and not even bother shooting one another. 

I really think that Battlefront may be the next MP game I enjoy of it's type.  I wonder if something like the new Rainbow 6 game or Dreadnought may be a good game for me, but I haven't seen enough of them to be convinced just yet. 

Oddly though, I have found that I really enjoy a slower and more measured MP game and have recently come to enjoy World of Warships and have some measure of success, K/D wise.  There's a specific pleasure to getting a full salvo of torpedoes or cannon fire land on an enemy ship while taking little damage yourself.  It helps that the community is pretty mature there and the game has it's own way of dealing with team killers. 
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