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« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2010, 07:34:53 PM »

Quote from: Kagath on February 12, 2010, 09:34:12 PM

So any new updates with these? I am thinking about picking up a pair of something for PC/Console gaming. Looks like the X31s are decent along with the Tritton 720s? I have a $50 card for BestBuy and a $100 for Walmart but I don't imagine they carry anything like this.

Also, for the TV viewing: Do you have to disconnect them each time you want to just use the TV speakers? I don't have a receiver or anything just my TV and consoles(PS3/360) hooked up via HDMI directly.

Sorry, I am not an audiophile by any stretch of the imagination.

Since you're not an audiophile, I'd really recommend the Turtle Beach X1.

http://www.amazon.com/Ear-Force-Stereo-Headset-Chat-Pc/dp/B000HM1GUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1266176008&sr=8-1

I have them, consider myself somewhat of an audiophile, and they work great for gaming. 

For TV viewing you would have to disconnect them and reconnect to the TV.  GL!
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« Reply #81 on: June 03, 2010, 03:55:19 PM »

I broke the right earpiece off my Turtle Beach X1 by taking it off too fast and one handed. Oh well. They were pretty good headphones for the price.
When shopping at Best Buy for a reasonably priced replacement I found the new model: Turtle Beach X11 headphones.

Pretty much the same price as the old X1s but now they have replaced the lame puck jack with a smaller one (same as the ones on the new Microsoft headsets). The advantage here is that I can now use my X11s and plug the mic jack into my Rock Band instruments. So now I can hook up and talk to people in party chat and go into Rock Band without having to switch out headsets.
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« Reply #82 on: July 22, 2010, 01:49:15 AM »

OK, maybe I'm just being dumb and missing it, but it's been a long day.  today I got the X41's that I ordered from Amazon and got them all hooked up.  sound is coming through the headset just fine, but it's also still coming through the TV speakers.  is it supposed to do that and all I have to do is turn the volume down?
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« Reply #83 on: July 22, 2010, 02:03:02 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on July 22, 2010, 01:49:15 AM

OK, maybe I'm just being dumb and missing it, but it's been a long day.  today I got the X41's that I ordered from Amazon and got them all hooked up.  sound is coming through the headset just fine, but it's also still coming through the TV speakers.  is it supposed to do that and all I have to do is turn the volume down?
That's what I do with my Tritton AX720's. I followed the directions like I was supposed to so I guess it's right.
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« Reply #84 on: July 22, 2010, 04:09:34 AM »

Quote from: Kagath on July 22, 2010, 02:03:02 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 22, 2010, 01:49:15 AM

OK, maybe I'm just being dumb and missing it, but it's been a long day.  today I got the X41's that I ordered from Amazon and got them all hooked up.  sound is coming through the headset just fine, but it's also still coming through the TV speakers.  is it supposed to do that and all I have to do is turn the volume down?
That's what I do with my Tritton AX720's. I followed the directions like I was supposed to so I guess it's right.

I went through the directions and didn't see anything about that, but as long as the headphones are working fine I guess it doesn't matter  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #85 on: July 22, 2010, 05:16:41 AM »

I just turn the volume off on my tv.
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« Reply #86 on: July 23, 2010, 05:51:37 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on July 22, 2010, 04:09:34 AM

Quote from: Kagath on July 22, 2010, 02:03:02 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on July 22, 2010, 01:49:15 AM

OK, maybe I'm just being dumb and missing it, but it's been a long day.  today I got the X41's that I ordered from Amazon and got them all hooked up.  sound is coming through the headset just fine, but it's also still coming through the TV speakers.  is it supposed to do that and all I have to do is turn the volume down?
That's what I do with my Tritton AX720's. I followed the directions like I was supposed to so I guess it's right.

I went through the directions and didn't see anything about that, but as long as the headphones are working fine I guess it doesn't matter  icon_biggrin

Here is one way it matters, though most people don't need them for it:  if you have a hearing-impaired person in your household, you generally have to blast the TV for them, and even then, some programs are too hard for them to decipher.  You can watch the TV at a volume comfortable for you, while the other person uses the headsets.  The X-41s are great for making the voices clearer, particularly on sports shows with "authentic fan" noise covering the announcers' voices.

I love my X-41s, though they have a few drawbacks as noted previously, they are perfect for our needs.   thumbsup

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« Reply #87 on: November 03, 2010, 04:56:06 PM »

Arise!

Well, despite my threats last year to buy a headset I ended up not getting anything. I fully intended to use my gift cards on the Turtle Beach X31's, but Best Buy was sold out so I instead purchased a bunch of games.  icon_biggrin And soon after the new year my need for gaming headphones vanished when my girlfriend started a job that forced her to relocate back with her parents who lived a few hours away from us.

However, a new excuse... I mean reason, to purchase a set of gaming headphones has come up. After a few months of doing the long distance thing the girlfriend and I split up, and I moved out of Orlando and into my parents place in an effort to switch careers. So now, once again, I have "roommates" who might not take too kindly to gunfire and explosions happening throughout the night.

Now, my needs are slightly different. I'm reading that the battery life for the wireless headsets are not that great. I don't really want to be constantly changing batteries, and I no longer have a strong desire for wireless. So I'm willing to get a wired headset if it is worth it. And it looks like Turtle Beach has introduced two new products since last I looked into everything: the Ear Force DX11 and the Ear Force DPX21.

The DX11 are wired headphones that provide up to 7.1 surround sound. They work by combining a set of X11 with their DSS Surround Sound Processor. This headset is designed to work with the 360, and also can work with the PC. It seems to be ideal for my situation, and are only $129. The DPX21 seems to be the exact same thing, but with the PX21 headphones and the ability to also work with the PS3 and is $149.

Anybody have any experience with these systems? Are the X11 headphones and the DSS processor worth the extra $30 over the X31's? And what about the PX21's? I don't have a PS3 and don't really plan on it, but if they are better than the X11's I might be able to put an extra $20 into it.
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« Reply #88 on: November 03, 2010, 05:17:29 PM »

Quote from: IkeVandergraaf on December 16, 2009, 07:48:10 PM

So, ThinJ, in the other Daehawk's thread, you are saying that the sound quality of the A20 isn't that hot.  You also seem to have a certain amount of experience with headphones.  So what, in your opinion, is the best set of gaming headphones for less than, say, $300?  Bonus points for being able to remove the microphone so that I can use them on the subway without looking like a dork.

Have you considered the Nox Specialist w. the Negotiator (99.99USD)? I have a set of the earphones and am enjoying them. They feel good, and the mic is retractable. I don't have a negotiator at this time, but I got to use one briefly just for audio.

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« Reply #89 on: November 03, 2010, 07:41:16 PM »

You know, I remember revisiting this thread and deciding I'd kind of spoken my piece. I must not have seen Ike's reply.

My opinions on the Astro stuff haven't really changed. The Mixamp is a great little piece of hardware but the A40 Headset just isn't worth the price they're asking. If it was $99 it would be a very solid deal.

If you've ever heard a pair of Sennheiser HD-280 Pro's and liked them, the HMD 280 is essentially the same pair of headphones with a very nice mic attached. They should be about $250. Or another nice set from Sennheiser is the PC 350's at about $150. Both of those are good options.

If you're really ok with spending $300, I think the Beyerdynamic MMX300's are the absolute king of the current PC Gaming headset market. They're awesome, but they're priced right at $300 or more pretty much everywhere.

Sidenote: Any headphones advertising actual separate discrete multi-driver multichannel surround in headphones are worthless. If you want headphones with surround for console gaming stick with a setup involving a headset that uses a standard stereo two driver set of headphones and then processes it with Dolby Headphone. Everything else is... well they're lesser products. The other supposed processes generally butcher the audio quality. That goes double for wireless sets where the sound gets compressed before it gets sent out to the cans.
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« Reply #90 on: November 03, 2010, 07:46:06 PM »

I'm still enjoying my X41's.  Battery life could be better but Target usuall has AAA batteries on sale for dirt cheap so it doesnt bug me. I did have to turn off the wifi for the 360 though due to the occasional loud popping sound from interference, but the router is less than 2 feet away for the time being so it's not an issue.

The only problem is that I keep forgetting to use the headphones.  I'll play fir hours and then look over and go 'oh yeah, those'  icon_lol
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« Reply #91 on: November 03, 2010, 08:38:17 PM »

I've been enjoying my Tritton set mentioned above. I guess they've been bought by MadCatz not long after my purchase. Other than the cheapo wire from the controller to the inline control puck, which apparently has been a known issue, I've liked them so far. I've only used them for games though. I think I watched a movie or 2 at the max wearing them.
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« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2010, 11:31:58 PM »

FWIW I've been completely satisfied with my Astro A40 + Mixamp.  The surround effect is excellent, and I prefer not having a wireless system so I never have to worry about interference.  I have a super long optical cable routed around to the side table next to my couch so the wires never get in the way at all.

And the sound is superb.  In games I can very precisely pick out exactly what direction footsteps or gunfire sounds are coming from, and when watching movies it's like listening to a full fledged surround system.  It's easy to forget I'm wearing the headphones because it somehow sounds like the sounds are coming from outside the headset.
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« Reply #93 on: November 04, 2010, 01:40:13 AM »

Quote from: wonderpug on November 03, 2010, 11:31:58 PM

FWIW I've been completely satisfied with my Astro A40 + Mixamp.  The surround effect is excellent, and I prefer not having a wireless system so I never have to worry about interference.  I have a super long optical cable routed around to the side table next to my couch so the wires never get in the way at all.

And the sound is superb.  In games I can very precisely pick out exactly what direction footsteps or gunfire sounds are coming from, and when watching movies it's like listening to a full fledged surround system.  It's easy to forget I'm wearing the headphones because it somehow sounds like the sounds are coming from outside the headset.

From your review earlier in the thread, it sounds like the A40 setup is perfect. Unfortunately it's $250. The DX11 sounds similar, but is $129.
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« Reply #94 on: November 05, 2010, 01:25:50 PM »

Quote from: msteelers on November 04, 2010, 01:40:13 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on November 03, 2010, 11:31:58 PM

FWIW I've been completely satisfied with my Astro A40 + Mixamp.  The surround effect is excellent, and I prefer not having a wireless system so I never have to worry about interference.  I have a super long optical cable routed around to the side table next to my couch so the wires never get in the way at all.

And the sound is superb.  In games I can very precisely pick out exactly what direction footsteps or gunfire sounds are coming from, and when watching movies it's like listening to a full fledged surround system.  It's easy to forget I'm wearing the headphones because it somehow sounds like the sounds are coming from outside the headset.

From your review earlier in the thread, it sounds like the A40 setup is perfect. Unfortunately it's $250. The DX11 sounds similar, but is $129.

Right now NewEgg has the X11's on sale for $49.99. There's also a 15% off + free shipping coupon floating around on the webs for NewEgg which drops the price to 43. You can snag the DSS for around $70 if you shop around... so you can actually drop the price of the whole DX11 setup to $115 or so.

I picked up a set of X11's and am loving them so far. The headset is ridiculously comfortable. I'm throwing the DSS on my Christmas list.
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« Reply #95 on: November 05, 2010, 07:36:55 PM »

Still love my X31s - my son has the X11s and I notice a huge difference in audio quality between the two. Meaning my X31s are gooder.
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« Reply #96 on: November 05, 2010, 07:57:27 PM »

Maybe someone here can help. I just bought the  X-31's and am a bit confused on how to set them up. WhileI can hook the RCA cables up to say my DVD player and the xbox360 and it works great, I was under the impression from some reviews, that I could connect it to the TV and everything would get transferred over to the headphones (dvd,tv,xbox,ps3) and I wouldn't have to switch the cables. I can't find a way to do that though. My setup is just a 55" hitachi tv with hdmi to my cable and dvd and component to my xbox and ps3. The back of my tv has the two hdmi, two component inputs and two composite inputs. I also have a digital audio out and some outputs that say 'Audio to hi-fi' but those didn't do anything for me as the docs from the tv say something about those being for recording. So for now it seems I have to switch the headphone jacks around to the various inputs to work with those but I have no way to use them with just tv audio.
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« Reply #97 on: November 05, 2010, 08:02:31 PM »

woah, the x31 are wireless? now i'm thinking about getting a pair for rock band. the pounding of the drums is annoying at times.

do they feel light?
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« Reply #98 on: November 05, 2010, 08:28:46 PM »

Quote from: jersoc on November 05, 2010, 08:02:31 PM

do they feel light?

Sure I guess- I have never had that complaint. The battery life blows though- I have to change my batteries out every 4-5 hours or so - closer to 4.

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« Reply #99 on: November 05, 2010, 08:32:15 PM »

Quote from: Americanidle on November 05, 2010, 07:57:27 PM

Maybe someone here can help. I just bought the  X-31's and am a bit confused on how to set them up. WhileI can hook the RCA cables up to say my DVD player and the xbox360 and it works great, I was under the impression from some reviews, that I could connect it to the TV and everything would get transferred over to the headphones (dvd,tv,xbox,ps3) and I wouldn't have to switch the cables. I can't find a way to do that though. My setup is just a 55" hitachi tv with hdmi to my cable and dvd and component to my xbox and ps3. The back of my tv has the two hdmi, two component inputs and two composite inputs. I also have a digital audio out and some outputs that say 'Audio to hi-fi' but those didn't do anything for me as the docs from the tv say something about those being for recording. So for now it seems I have to switch the headphone jacks around to the various inputs to work with those but I have no way to use them with just tv audio.

odd - I have a 2yr old Sony LCD that has audio outputs on the side - that is where I hooked mine up for the audio.

Connection:
Xbox to TV via HDMI
Y-audio cables from wireless sensor to audio out.

Check front/back for other audio outs?

edit to add: is there an option in your TV control panel to send the audio to the outputs you mentioned above that do nothing? Perhaps they have to be enabled somehow? Just a thought.
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« Reply #100 on: November 05, 2010, 08:48:48 PM »

Quote from: Roman on November 05, 2010, 08:28:46 PM

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do they feel light?

Sure I guess- I have never had that complaint. The battery life blows though- I have to change my batteries out every 4-5 hours or so - closer to 4.



so the 25 hours on the website is a lie? not sure i want that then. that's like one gaming session.
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« Reply #101 on: November 06, 2010, 07:34:00 AM »

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Quote from: Roman on November 05, 2010, 08:28:46 PM

Quote from: jersoc on November 05, 2010, 08:02:31 PM

do they feel light?

Sure I guess- I have never had that complaint. The battery life blows though- I have to change my batteries out every 4-5 hours or so - closer to 4.



so the 25 hours on the website is a lie? not sure i want that then. that's like one gaming session.

odd, I get close to that many hours with my x41's.  I wonder if they made the power consumption better.
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« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2010, 02:43:22 PM »

Well, Amazon is doing a sale on all Ear Force (Turtle Beach) headsets. It looks like you can piece together the DX11's that I was looking at for about $100. And the X41's are $140 instead of $200.

I don't know how long the sale lasts though.
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« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2010, 05:34:58 PM »

Quote from: msteelers on November 07, 2010, 02:43:22 PM

Well, Amazon is doing a sale on all Ear Force (Turtle Beach) headsets. It looks like you can piece together the DX11's that I was looking at for about $100. And the X41's are $140 instead of $200.

I don't know how long the sale lasts though.

I think the X41's have been around $150 for awhile- that's how much I paid for them in July.
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« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2010, 11:15:43 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on November 07, 2010, 05:34:58 PM

Quote from: msteelers on November 07, 2010, 02:43:22 PM

Well, Amazon is doing a sale on all Ear Force (Turtle Beach) headsets. It looks like you can piece together the DX11's that I was looking at for about $100. And the X41's are $140 instead of $200.

I don't know how long the sale lasts though.

I think the X41's have been around $150 for awhile- that's how much I paid for them in July.

$199 is their normal price. That's what's listed on the Turtle Beach website as well as Amazon. I'm sure they go on sale throughout the year though.
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« Reply #105 on: November 08, 2010, 12:18:01 PM »

I ended up ordering the X11 headphones along with the DSS processor for $100 thanks to the Amazon sale. Early birthday gifts are always the best.  icon_wink

Now all I need to do is find a cheap HDMI cord and I'll finally be able to take full advantage of my xbox. Do stores like Walmart or Best Buy have decent prices, or do I need to look online?
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« Reply #106 on: November 08, 2010, 02:05:34 PM »

Quote from: msteelers on November 08, 2010, 12:18:01 PM

I ended up ordering the X11 headphones along with the DSS processor for $100 thanks to the Amazon sale. Early birthday gifts are always the best.  icon_wink

Now all I need to do is find a cheap HDMI cord and I'll finally be able to take full advantage of my xbox. Do stores like Walmart or Best Buy have decent prices, or do I need to look online?

Monoprice.com
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« Reply #107 on: November 08, 2010, 02:33:20 PM »

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Quote from: msteelers on November 08, 2010, 12:18:01 PM

I ended up ordering the X11 headphones along with the DSS processor for $100 thanks to the Amazon sale. Early birthday gifts are always the best.  icon_wink

Now all I need to do is find a cheap HDMI cord and I'll finally be able to take full advantage of my xbox. Do stores like Walmart or Best Buy have decent prices, or do I need to look online?

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« Reply #108 on: November 08, 2010, 02:48:26 PM »

Up here we have stores called Winners - just like your TJMax.

Last week I was in buying some jeans and while in line waiting to pay I came across 6' HDMI cables for $9.99  eek  I bought 3 for future use - at that price I could do no wrong.
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« Reply #109 on: November 08, 2010, 04:05:31 PM »

Looking at Amazon they have a 10' HDMI cable marked down from $45 to $0.35!  eek

The item has almost all 5-star reviews, as does the seller. But I'm nervous to pull the trigger and order it. It seems too good to be true.
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« Reply #110 on: November 08, 2010, 06:02:26 PM »

Which should I put on the xmas list: X41s for $140 or X11s with DSS for $100?
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« Reply #111 on: November 08, 2010, 06:34:50 PM »

Quote from: msteelers on November 08, 2010, 04:05:31 PM

Looking at Amazon they have a 10' HDMI cable marked down from $45 to $0.35!  eek

The item has almost all 5-star reviews, as does the seller. But I'm nervous to pull the trigger and order it. It seems too good to be true.
I placed an order for 2. We'll see. Says estimated delivery on 15th.
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Well, Amazon is doing a sale on all Ear Force (Turtle Beach) headsets. It looks like you can piece together the DX11's that I was looking at for about $100. And the X41's are $140 instead of $200.

I don't know how long the sale lasts though.

I think the X41's have been around $150 for awhile- that's how much I paid for them in July.

$199 is their normal price. That's what's listed on the Turtle Beach website as well as Amazon. I'm sure they go on sale throughout the year though.
amazon has had it at that discounted price for awhile. I've had the x41's in my shopping cart many times before I pulled the trigger, and I cannot see myself getting lucky enough to catch them on sale that often.  That's the nice thing about them, unless forced to they almost always have a deal.
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« Reply #113 on: November 08, 2010, 07:50:17 PM »

I'm tellin' ya, the Nox headphones are nice. smile
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« Reply #114 on: November 08, 2010, 07:53:20 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on November 08, 2010, 07:43:19 PM

amazon has had it at that discounted price for awhile. I've had the x41's in my shopping cart many times before I pulled the trigger, and I cannot see myself getting lucky enough to catch them on sale that often.  That's the nice thing about them, unless forced to they almost always have a deal.

That's pretty cool then. I got an email from Amazon about the "limited time" sale, which is the only reason I even checked Amazon now instead of waiting until after the holidays.
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« Reply #115 on: November 08, 2010, 08:49:33 PM »

Quote from: Purge on November 08, 2010, 07:50:17 PM

I'm tellin' ya, the Nox headphones are nice. smile

Does the Nox have low level ambient hiss? Almost all the reviews on Amazon address this for the Turtle Beach products, especially for the X41s and the X11s (which I bought). The reviews range from "its barely audible, you won't even notice it" to "its annoying".

I fall into the "its annoying" camp. Yeah the ambient hiss on my X11s can't be heard when actually playing a game, but its annoying to hear it when I'm in the dashboard and I have yet to click 'play game'. Actually annoying enough that I don't put on my headphones until the game itself is making noise.
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« Reply #116 on: November 08, 2010, 09:27:57 PM »

What hiss? I haven't heard any hiss out of my Nox earphones, and I generally hear higher frequency sounds.
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« Reply #117 on: November 08, 2010, 09:41:37 PM »

Quote from: Purge on November 08, 2010, 09:27:57 PM

What hiss? I haven't heard any hiss out of my Nox earphones, and I generally hear higher frequency sounds.

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« Reply #118 on: November 08, 2010, 09:42:20 PM »

clever.
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« Reply #119 on: November 10, 2010, 07:37:14 PM »

The headphones were delivered today. Setup was very easy, and didn't take long. The processor has a USB and digital audio cable that connects to the xbox, and the headphones connect to the processor via USB and a regular headphone plug. Once everything was plugged in I turned on the xbox to test out the headphones. I was hit with a wall of bass as the COD main menu popped up. After a few moments switching around the in-game audio settings I jumped into a quick multiplayer match. The differences between the headphones and the TV are small, but significant. I could hear gunfire off in the distance, and even find out the general direction that it came from. Sound effects were much more noticeable, including the sound of a fly by my left ear which had me waving in the air at nothing. And I could hear those damn RC cars as well, which was a big plus. One thing I noticed right away was the music in the level seemed too high, so I'll have to mess around with those settings and either lower them considerably or drop it entirely.

The headphones themselves were nice. Heavy enough that I knew that they were there, but not enough to distract me from the game. Nobody was talking during the game, so I have no idea how the voice chat and game audio mix. I'm sure I'll get a lot of time in with them this evening to form a better opinion, but right now I like them.  thumbsup
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