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« on: December 08, 2012, 06:58:43 AM »

one of the other new trailers in tonight's game awards points to this.  
http://kotaku.com/5966779/whatever-it-is-the-phantom-pain-looks-very-intense

there has also been speculation that it's a metal gear game in disguise.  the lead character certainly bears a passing resemblance to big boss and the last thing you see makes it look like psycho mantis floating into the air with his arms spread wide pose.  

I first thought it was Liquid after he lost his arm at Shadow Moses, but that was the right arm, not the left.  

but according to the lore after MG1, Big Boss lost most of his limbs and had them replaced with some fancy prosthetics.  

from neogaf, here's something from the trailer

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2012, 07:11:53 AM »

It's definitely a Kojima game.

You can also add that the lighting system, shaders, animation, and various other things are telltale signals of Kojima's new engine, albeit some rougher models than previously shown.

I think it's just Ground Zeroes stuff, but then again, that's already announced. Perhaps this just means Ground Zeroes is getting the name of MGS 5?

However, the tech level is also that of the ground zeroes time, instead of post MGS4 Solid Snake where Snake would be sporting a cyborg arm.

It could be another side game, weirdly enough, all about Big Boss after the mission where he loses his eye, and eventually meets the crew of people that are the bosses of Metal Gear Solid 1.

After all, they guy in bandages is probably Decoy Octopus.
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2012, 02:34:01 PM »

Nobody seems to know who these Moby Dick Games are,the head of the studio Joakim Mogren,the first name is an anagram of Kojima and the second name has Ogre in it,as in Project Ogre

Even the guys at VGA said they have a lot of trailers to show and one will be cryptic..all the other trailers,Bioshock,Tomb Raider,The Last Of Us etc,seemed pretty straight forward

apparently everyone in the Konami VIP lounge were wearing Moby Dick Games T-Shirts(but i would be doing that if everyone thought it was us,just to tease  Tongue)

and then there are things like this


The Liquid Snake Theory is pretty good,but like you say its the wrong arm,however as with Ground Zero,Kojima was reversing a lot of the shots,and it would also explain the Union Flag on the wall,with Liquid being brought up in Britain and the youngest to join the S.A.S...but then again the character,also had a bandage over his eye,so i guess its unlikely to be that



white flower petals that featured at the end of MGS3


I love it when MGS game gets shown,there is always speculation on the net,Kojima is the best at doing that


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thinking about the crawling along the floor,seems very MGS4 when old snake is crawling along the floor through the Microwave emitters(where you had to bash that X button)
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2012, 02:22:46 AM »

This is good to read through,if anyone still has any doubts,look through these 15 points(some we know)

its Metal Gear Solid!!,absolutely no doubt,LOL

http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2012/12/08/x-reasons-why-the-phantom-pain-is-metal-gear-solid-5/#gallery-top
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 09:19:09 AM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on December 09, 2012, 02:22:46 AM

This is good to read through,if anyone still has any doubts,look through these 15 points(some we know)

its Metal Gear Solid!!,absolutely no doubt,LOL

http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2012/12/08/x-reasons-why-the-phantom-pain-is-metal-gear-solid-5/#gallery-top

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 09:52:49 PM »

Does MGSV = Ground Zeroes or are they different games?
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2012, 12:17:02 AM »

I think that's the real question that people are asking now.

Because you can't have two games launching near the same times with the same main character.
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2012, 02:28:01 AM »

But they wouldn't be the same main character if one is liquid, one is solid, one is gaseous and one is naked.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2012, 11:12:00 AM »

some people are have said that when Hideo first did the teasers for MGS4 it was another 3 or so years until the game was out

also others have suggested that the line at the end "He has come to" which is said in a heavy accent so it sounds like "V has come too" is meaning that both games are on their way "V is coming too,as well as Ground Zeroes"  icon_lol


People want to see a game with Solidus,because we hardly know about him...i wouldn't mind that,but would prefer Big Boss or Solid Snake(but i don't think i want another old man Snake)
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2012, 11:38:19 AM »

I only played MGS4 and loved it - its one of my favorite games ever - What a journey!

That said, I didn't understand a single thing about the various snakes, and why there are so many of them, and in various corporal forms?

Very excited about this!
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2012, 01:10:01 PM »

I feel like MGS4 wrapped up the story perfectly.

Not sure I have any desire to dive back into that.

Just let it go.
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2012, 01:49:33 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on December 10, 2012, 11:38:19 AM

I only played MGS4 and loved it - its one of my favorite games ever - What a journey!

That said, I didn't understand a single thing about the various snakes, and why there are so many of them, and in various corporal forms?

Very excited about this!

Part of my post was a joke, but the "blah snake" are just code names for various people. Spoilers if you don't want to know parts of the other games:
Spoiler for Hiden:
Big Boss (who Solid Snake was cloned from) had the code name "Naked Snake" in MGS2. "Liquid Snake" is another clone of Big Boss who Solid fought in MGS1. His arm was cut off and sewed on to Revolver Ocelot, who started to act like Liquid. I haven't played more than the beginning of 4, so I don't know what happened to him yet. "Solidus Snake" is the president of the US, as revealed at the end of MGS2. It gets very silly.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2012, 02:03:58 PM »

Quote from: ATB on December 10, 2012, 01:10:01 PM

I feel like MGS4 wrapped up the story perfectly.

Not sure I have any desire to dive back into that.

Just let it go.

well MGS3 was a prequel,so it's likely it wont be a sequel to MGS4,but more in between stuff he has been doing for the past few years,i personally want a remake of Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2(not MGS 1 and MGS2)-ie: Solid Snake Vs Big Boss<<<that could be so fooookin' epic!!

I just saw this on Kotaku about Joakim N Mogren tweeting a lot,the twitter account picture was what made me Laugh


I doubt it's a real account,but hey,who knows it may be

The funny thing is one of the pictures on that account is of his dinner,if anyone following Hideo on Twitter knows that is all the guy does- takes photos of his food


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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2012, 06:15:49 PM »

The whole trailer all I could think of was "Wow...so how long do I have to crawl around?  This trailer showcases the part I hate most about any game....crawling"  Maybe I'm just old and want people off my lawn..
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2012, 12:16:13 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on December 16, 2012, 06:15:49 PM

The whole trailer all I could think of was "Wow...so how long do I have to crawl around?  This trailer showcases the part I hate most about any game....crawling"  Maybe I'm just old and want people off my lawn..

as i put above
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thinking about the crawling along the floor,seems very MGS4 when old snake is crawling along the floor through the Microwave emitters(where you had to bash that X button)

I hated that part in MGS4,but as soon as i saw it,it reminded me of it...not looking forward to that part Tongue (and hopefully it is just that part)
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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2012, 01:14:24 AM »

heh, maybe this will turn out being a Vagrant Story sequel  icon_wink

(stumbled across that while researching VS to see if it was worth playing)
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2013, 03:28:34 AM »

well its been another odd week for The Phantom Pain

First there was an interview with Moby Dick Studios CEO 'Joakim Mogren' who appeared all bandaged up,like one of the characters in the video trailer we saw late last year


and 'let slip' that the game is using the Fox Engine with some screenshots which had the Fox Engine logo on them,which secured a 'oh fuck' face from Joakim icon_lol
Interview here:(3 minutes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_dtZm7KwT0

Quite hilarious  Tongue ...i think all games should be slowly announced like this

However,according to that interview 'ALL' questions will be answered at the GDC,which runs from 25th March to 29th March,so not long to wait if true

anyway,today a new Black and White cryptic trailer has been released showing seemingly CCTV footage of some sort of medical procedure with Morse Code as its soundtrack which apparently translates as
 "Generating image hold scenario loading hold activate phantom pain dot meme hold error error error error"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH0djYwUzBU


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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2013, 04:19:56 AM »

Don't forget the subliminal frame in the second video that reads:

Project Omega
AI Matrix sector 07-8942
VR Program 'Phantom_Pain.MME'
Contractor: Moby Dick Studios
Subject: Redacted

Purpose:  Treatment of Neurological Damage Sustained in Combat
              Treatment of Combat Psychological Stress

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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2013, 04:44:09 AM »

ahh good stuff,i did a screen cap of the youtube vid after pausing at the right place(which took awhile),but just couldn't make anything out apart from the top line

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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2013, 10:30:16 AM »

it keeps coming
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Today on Twitter, Kojima began by tweeting about the use of lens flare in the credits in a trailer for the upcoming Star Trek movie, saying:"Watched the new trailer of " Star Trek Into Darkness" and found lens flare on the credit part which made me laugh because I used lens flare on my GDC trailer as well. Well we've acknowledged each other that we both share the same fetichism on lens flare, and I guess that's it."



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Thats not the important part




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In the larger version of the picture, you can see that the file name for the video is: "TPP_GDC2013_720p_ESRB." Obviously this would seem to suggest that it's a video of the mystery game The Phantom Pain



Sure TPP could mean something completely different,but it doesn't Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2013, 03:16:18 PM »

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it keeps coming
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Today on Twitter, Kojima began by tweeting about the use of lens flare in the credits in a trailer for the upcoming Star Trek movie, saying:"Watched the new trailer of " Star Trek Into Darkness" and found lens flare on the credit part which made me laugh because I used lens flare on my GDC trailer as well. Well we've acknowledged each other that we both share the same fetichism on lens flare, and I guess that's it."



^^
Thats not the important part




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In the larger version of the picture, you can see that the file name for the video is: "TPP_GDC2013_720p_ESRB." Obviously this would seem to suggest that it's a video of the mystery game The Phantom Pain



Sure TPP could mean something completely different,but it doesn't Tongue

oh gods, what if this is one elaborate prank? 
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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2013, 04:37:06 PM »

OK, they should really just come out and say what this is.  I imagine interest in the 'is it or isn't it' question will wane soon.
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2013, 05:25:30 PM »

I would like to know if it is Metal Gear Roll Eyes then did they expect everyone to crack all that has been cracked,was the above 'TPP' meant to be on that picture...obviously that interview the other day that accidentally showed the Fox Engine logo was planned,but I would like to know what else was planned
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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2013, 06:05:27 PM »

CVG have a live blog for Hideo at GCD,it has just started

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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2013, 06:19:03 PM »

yep.



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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2013, 06:26:24 PM »

So which Snake is in the game? David Hayter isn't the voice.
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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2013, 06:26:54 PM »

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so.. one game or two?
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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2013, 06:31:36 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on March 27, 2013, 06:26:54 PM

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so.. one game or two?

Yeah i am wondering that as well,....CVG has a new topic up saying 'Metal Gear Solid V:The Phantom Pain',so that's the official title..no mention of the name Ground Zeros now,was that the working title,perhaps?


@Teggy,I am only reading the blog,CVG say it sounds like Kiefer Sutherland(not sure if serious or not...he has done video games before in COD:World At War)

Funnily enough David Hayter a few weeks back held a poll on his twitter account asking what people would think he didn't do the voice for Snake in a new MGS game...this makes me sad

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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2013, 06:41:11 PM »

Kiefer is the guy in the bandages - I was wondering which Snake this is - Solid Snake or some other Snake. He looks younger than MGS4 Snake. Granted I haven't played MGS4 yet so I don't know what happens in it.
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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2013, 06:44:15 PM »

MGS4 got me to buy a PS3. MGS5 will not get me to buy a PS4.

The story is over.
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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2013, 06:46:02 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on March 27, 2013, 06:41:11 PM

Kiefer is the guy in the bandages - I was wondering which Snake this is - Solid Snake or some other Snake. He looks younger than MGS4 Snake. Granted I haven't played MGS4 yet so I don't know what happens in it.

Quote from: ATB on March 27, 2013, 06:44:15 PM

MGS4 got me to buy a PS3. MGS5 will not get me to buy a PS4.

The story is over.

MGS4 is still the end of the whole saga,this will be a sequel to Peace Walker....Numbers mean nothing now,LOL,after Metal Gear Solid 3 became the prequel to the whole saga

this is set before Metal Gear 1 and 2,which in itself was set before Metal Gear Solid 1,2 and 4

here you go,i think this is the order..MGR:Revengeance apparently not being canon(not played it myself)

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MGS: PO<<although i think Hideo wishes to delete this,he hates it
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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2013, 06:47:08 PM »

The story continues!
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« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2013, 06:49:42 PM »

trailer

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/398250/metal-gear-solid-5-the-first-trailer/
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2013, 06:51:10 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on March 27, 2013, 06:41:11 PM

Kiefer is the guy in the bandages - I was wondering which Snake this is - Solid Snake or some other Snake. He looks younger than MGS4 Snake. Granted I haven't played MGS4 yet so I don't know what happens in it.

maybe it's Sordid Snake.
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2013, 07:11:16 PM »

its good that its the guy in the bandages that sounds like Kiefer,however it still doesn't sound like David Hayter at the end of that trailer when Snake says "Diamond Dogs,our new home"

some people are speculating its because Solid Snake may be making an appearance,and it would be strange having David Hayter doing both voices(never been a problem before for me),but i can't see that happening in this game


1972-Solid Snake and Liquid Snake born
1974-Peace Walker
MGS5-Big Boss has now just emerged from a 9 year coma,so its at least 1983(so Solid Snake at this time is about 11 years old)
1995-Metal Gear 1 -Solid Snake being sent by Big Boss as a part of Foxhound (so still plenty more games can be set inbetween these two titles)
1999-Metal Gear 2
Metal Gear Solid was set in 2005
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« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2013, 07:13:21 PM »

Wonder when it's coming out - the splash screen showed PS3 and 360.

So what was Ground Zeroes anyway?
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« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2013, 07:15:44 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on March 27, 2013, 07:13:21 PM

Wonder when it's coming out - the splash screen showed PS3 and 360.

So what was Ground Zeroes anyway?

here's what we had heard about Ground Zeroes.  it was billed as a prequel to MGS5.
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« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2013, 07:16:31 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on March 27, 2013, 07:13:21 PM

Wonder when it's coming out - the splash screen showed PS3 and 360.

So what was Ground Zeroes anyway?

I don't know,because now CVG are referring the trailer as the Ground Zero trailer...so not sure what MGS5 is called now icon_confused


PS3 and 360?,that will piss off some Playstationers ...now can the 360 have MGS4 as well please?
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